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Hi Bish...I've tried many times to comment and a couple of times on unthreaded here - but there's something wrong with posting today (unless you're Stewgreen and a few others). What's wrong?

Update: Maybe it's because my previous posts were not as a registered user, but this one is?

Nov 12, 2013 at 8:55 PM | Registered CommenterHarry Passfield

@Green Sand Wow Tom Nelson tweeted that on 6th of September
"the sea level increased for the first time since the last ice age"
- breakthrough science ? or page of hilarious mistranslation on OFFICIAL COP 19 WEBSITE
H/T Tom Nelson

- How come skeptics are first to spot error in things dramagreens wrote & read many times ?
and 2 months later it's still ucorrected

Nov 12, 2013 at 8:17 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

"But all this was ignored. They ploughed on - and the rest, as they say, is history."
@Robin : would some of the people you worked with suggest it was actual UK corruption rather than just incompetence ?

Nov 12, 2013 at 7:47 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen
Nov 12, 2013 at 7:37 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

johanna/robin guenier
So how come the French seem to manage?
I hand over my carte vitale to the pharmacist and no money changes hands. Periodically I get a statement of what the cost was, what the state reimbursement was and what my insurance company paid.
I hand over my carte vitale to my GP/consultant/laboratory, pay them what they ask and within 72 hours 60% of that is in my bank account and the rest (apart from 1€ at the doctor's which is a "standing charge", so to speak) the insurance company pays within a fortnight.
All test results come to me as well as the specialist or GP so I know (provided I understand the headings and the figures) what my current state of health is etc., and so forth.
I haven't had cause to spend time in hospital yet but everything else appears to work a treat.
If the French can manage to do it I would have thought it's not beyond the wit of most other civilised countries.

Nov 12, 2013 at 7:25 PM | Registered CommenterMike Jackson

Robin Google : Obamacare company failed in Canada

Re $300m Obamacare contract
According to CNN, Canadian firm CGI Group, took the prize. It received $88 million through last March 31. Its original $93.7 million contract runs through December, with three one-year option periods still possible.

Revelations that the Canadian based company was recently fired by the Canadian government for their failed record with Canadian healthcare websites prompted more independent research.
......As it turns out, the company has been lobbying Congress since 2009 with specific interests paid to “Health Care reform-H.R. 3926 (Obamacare), Government IT Systems & Federally-Facilitated Health Exchange.”
- The company’s lobbying work is represented by Holland & Knight LLP.
- In total, the group has spent $1 million since their federally sponsored healthcare lobbying efforts began in 2009. The firm has been pumping money in at an increased rate since President Obama took office. The firm has spent $2 million lobbying Congress since 2003- fifty percent of which was spent in the last 4 years.

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Nov 12, 2013 at 7:24 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen


fwiw I'm presently immersed in a situation where lack of oversight and enforcement is central to why things went wrong. Four years down the line even after a Judicial Review showed wrongdoing by a government department and still that department will *not* acknowledge that there are limits to their statutory mandate. Officials keep breaking their own statutory rules and those officials persist in trying to arbitrarily get their way by deploying a host of bureaucratic flimflam, obstruction and imperious pronouncements.

The existing rules and law should be adequate to resolve the situation but the fact of the matter is that by and large there is no independent authority prepared to enforce either the rules or the law. British civil servants are legally obliged to act objectively - that obligation needs to be tested.

When sanctions for misbehavior disappear - one can hardly be surprised that things go awry.

Rehabilitating delinquent bureaucrats (and far too many "academics"! ) is probably the biggest challenge to tackling the cult of AGW Far too many public institutions in the UK are grotesquely bloated and frankly, divorced from reality and the actual consequences of their actions.

What to do? It seems to me that something radical is required and that if things keep going as they are, something is going to snap.

Nov 12, 2013 at 6:45 PM | Registered Commentertomo

johanna: a prime reason for public sector IT failures (not just in healthcare) is that people seem to be completely unable or unwilling to learn from past experience. For example, here's a note about the NHS IT project that I submitted to the House of Commons Public Accounts Committee in November 2006 (four years later than the article I referred to yesterday). You'll see I spelled out what I considered to be the three essential characteristics of all successful projects, on each of which I believed the NHS was failing. In particular, you'll see I cited evidence from Government sources confirming the importance of each - views formed as a result of earlier public sector failures.

But all this was ignored. They ploughed on - and the rest, as they say, is history.

Nov 12, 2013 at 6:12 PM | Registered CommenterRobin Guenier

jeez Joanna you a re not cutting me much slack these days
When I talk with activists they listen with extrapolation ears and hear things that I haven't said.
I never said that Bob Hawke couldn't be PM. thinking aloud I just said that I could understand in rare HYPOTHETICAL circumstances like if the owner of a conglomerate or acting union became MP they'd have so many conflicts of interests they'd have to sit out every debate. Current MP's often put their business share in blind trusts.
- Anyway REAL WORLD CONFLICT OF INTEREST MATTERS the reality is that Harrabin is moaning the BBC abounds with sceptics yet likely within the hour somewhere on the BBC an alarmist will pop up to hype climate change and the BBC will fail to mention that person is connected to GreenBiz/NGO. and this happens again &again and again during the month.

like this solar mafia godfather hyping it up

Nov 12, 2013 at 5:37 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Learn something new every day, according to COP19, during the last 100 years "the sea level increased for the first time since the last ice age"?

About Climate Change

Difficult questions - simple answers

" There is no doubt that now another climate change takes place - during the last hundred years the average global temperature rose by 0.74°C[1], the sea level increased for the first time since the last ice age (over 20cm since 1870, and the pace of the increase is getting faster), glaciers melt and the snow cap of the Northern hemisphere decreases. ."

My bold

I must be mistaken in thinking that sea level had been rising ever since the last ice age ?

Nov 12, 2013 at 4:35 PM | Registered CommenterGreen Sand

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