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When they mention electric cars in conjunction with electricity supply they have in mind a scheme whereby the car is plugged into the grid and the stored energy in the battery is available to the grid to smooth fluctuations. Yes they really are, no joke.

What happens in the morning when you go to the car and find the juice is all gone because it isn't windy is not mentioned. These people are not numerate in an engineering sense. Folks who are currently not buying electric cars have more idea.

Mar 25, 2013 at 11:24 AM | Registered Commenterrhoda

I assume these amazing flywheels will have their axes of rotation pointed at Polaris. If not, they will try to precess and will put dreadful strain on their bearings.

Mar 25, 2013 at 11:22 AM | Registered CommenterDreadnought

Gabriel Levy deleted my innocuous post which just said shut the coal plants down with no replacement other than renewables(did not mention Gas) and in Winter with a blocking high for several days the lights go out as soon as the water pumped storage runs out.

Just does not like the truth sadly.

Mar 25, 2013 at 11:11 AM | Registered CommenterBreath of Fresh Air

Mar 25, 2013 at 10:17 AM | Martin A

Gabriel Levy is a visiting lecturer at the Communist University.

Mar 25, 2013 at 10:30 AM | Unregistered CommenterBrownedoff

Gabriel Levy put forward the idea that electric cars, flywheels and supercapacitors etc. will save the day.

Forget flywheels and supercapacitors (same class of non-starter idea as CCS) for the time being, only electric cars are currently available (950 sold in 2012, down from 1,021 in 2011).

A Nissan Leaf, at £23,490 for a motorised roller skate with the utility of a chocolate teapot, is aimed at wealthy Green Activists who are attracted to these Smugmobiles and to support this dumb project the numpties, on behalf of the taxpayer, stump up £5,000 in a brown envelope to these hobgoblins so that they can flaunt their planet saving crededtials in the enclaves of the wealthy metropolitan elite in North London.

Bearing in mind that electricity is becoming an increasingly scarce commodity, the numpties at DECC inform us that, at the moment, it is being consumed at the domestic level at an average rate of 4,266 kWh per year per household.

So, how many kWh of this scarce resource would a Nissan Leaf snort from the network in a year?

Nissan opine that the average Leaf would need to be charged three times per week at 25.26 kWh per charge.= 3,941 kWh per year.

So owning one Leaf car is equivalent to having an extra 92% of an "average household" sharing your home.

It is ironic that the numpties are getting their knickers in a twist today about the negative effect of "immigrants" on scarce resources in the UK whilst at the same time encouraging an extra "average houshold" electricity burden on the state by subsising Nissan Leafs.

What a pack of numbskulls.

On the bright side, hardly anyone is buying these absurd fashion accessories.

When the market finally collapses and the price of a Leaf falls to say £750, one could stick it the garage on bricks, plug it into a suitable electrical cabinet and use it instead of a Hyundai Emergency Generator when the rolling blackout strikes.

Just a thought along the same lines, we should be rejoicing that the windmills are working flat-out because this surely means that they will fail all the earlier!

Trebles all round.

Mar 25, 2013 at 10:24 AM | Unregistered CommenterBrownedoff

Out of curiosity, who is Gabriel Levy?

Mar 25, 2013 at 10:17 AM | Registered CommenterMartin A

JaceF:

You could be right, I've noticed how much higher the thermometer on my woodburner is reading than the one in the garden. Location is everything. and if I make some mannian adjustments to the garden thermometer, I'm sure it will be much warmer.

Mar 25, 2013 at 9:55 AM | Registered CommenterPhillip Bratby

Phillip Bratby:

I'm jumping the gun the Star may be right after official mannian adjustments have been made to the records.

Mar 25, 2013 at 9:43 AM | Unregistered CommenterJaceF

JaceF:

The Daily Star must have gone to Specsavers the Met Office

Mar 25, 2013 at 9:27 AM | Registered CommenterPhillip Bratby

one swallow does not a summer make

lol epic fail from the 6th March recless reporting in light of how the Month has actually panned out.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/302111/Mini-heatwave-to-hit-UK


HOTTEST MARCH EVER AS MINI HEATWAVE HITS UK
BRITS will bask in glorious sunshine this month as March 2013 is tipped to be the hottest on record.

Mar 25, 2013 at 8:43 AM | Unregistered CommenterJaceF

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