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Agree on the blackface == racism question. Racism isn't noticing a difference, it is using that difference to mark one group as inferior to another. There should be no more offence in referring to someone's skin colour than to their hair colour.

You might find this story interesting. It was a few years ago. I think the indignation would be considerably worse today.

Sep 21, 2019 at 9:50 PM | Unregistered CommenterRobert Swan

AK, Thanks for that response. It now makes sense. If only the USA would embrace a similar approach.

Sep 21, 2019 at 7:25 PM | Unregistered CommenterRoss Lea

Ross the main difference concerns handguns. These can only be used (except by authorized police) for competition and are strictly controlled. One of my colleagues did sports shooting but could only transport his gun locked in the boot of his car and had to register his route with the police. Rifles and air rifles are more tolerantly treated and I used them for protection against bears in northern Saskatchewan and the Rocky Mountains.
So guns are not common in urban areas and illegal possession of them is very heavily penalized. Some types, legal in the USA, like automatics, are totally banned in Canada. So the number of guns is much lower in Canada and penalties for having them are much stiffer.

Sep 21, 2019 at 7:19 PM | Unregistered CommenterAK

I am very puzzled by the contrast between gun crime in the USA and Canada but I suppost it comes down to the consitutional right be bare (or should it bear, no I think that is a canine quadropend) arms.

Sep 21, 2019 at 6:41 PM | Unregistered CommenterRoss Lea

Sep 21, 2019 at 2:48 PM | AK

I agree, but as you rightly say:

"Now we have a Canadian Prime Minister grovelling because he is being attacked by opponents for engaging in an activity that, when it occurred, would have probably been entirely innocent."

Trudeau (and many others) need to be very careful about being whiter-than-white about political correctness. If only non-White and non-Christians were held to the same standards that they set.

You will be aware that Canada is generally peaceful, but a very divided Nation. Trudeau has upset a lot of peaceful people whilst culturing his own.

Sep 21, 2019 at 4:26 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

I think there is far to much outrage expressed by PC nuts on behalf of other people. Account is not taken of the historic perspective; we cannot nor should not try to change the past but accept it. Traditions like some Morris dancers blacking up should be left alone it was a simple way to disguise identity and nothing to do with race etc. I see nothing wrong with that or the Black and White minstrels or ethnic dolls, (it annoys me that I am forced to use a euphemism err ! ). There used to harmless even affectionate banter in the armed forces and serving comrades took no offence which is as it should be.

Sep 21, 2019 at 4:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterRoss Lea

Last night PCar seemed determined to drag me into the Justin Trudeau ‘blackface story.'
I have no wish to discuss Canadian politics and have no skin in that game. However, I do have an opinion on the blackface controversy itself which differs from that of the MSM and I wondered what the opinion was here, especially when it is being used politically to damage an opponent that otherwise has a pretty good record on race relations, (if not on other matters).
When I was a schoolboy we watched on Saturday nights on my Grandmother's TV, the Black and White Minstrels Show. There was, as far as I knew, nothing racial about it. If anything it was honouring two traditions 1) the original negro tradition of musicianship and 2) the British music-hall tradition of blackface. If anything, I felt then that the blackface tradition honoured the original negro musicians.
Now, things are different. It is probably unwise to use blackface because it could be misconstrued as deliberately racist. But what was the situation in places like Canada at the beginning of this century? Apart from anti-American Indian sentiment in some areas, Canadian racism was non-existent to low key. Toronto was one of the most racially mixed cities (even more so than New York). I suspect wearing blackface would not cause criticism then, because none would have been intended.
Now we have a Canadian Prime Minister grovelling because he is being attacked by opponents for engaging in an activity that, when it occurred, would have probably been entirely innocent.

Interestingly, when I typed "negro" my spell-checker tells me it is incorrect, which is insane. An on-line dictionary tells me that "The term can be construed as offensive, inoffensive, or completely neutral, largely depending on the region and/or country where it is used." Just like "blackface"?

Sep 21, 2019 at 2:48 PM | Unregistered CommenterAK

Sep 21, 2019 at 10:58 AM | AK

It will be interesting to see how the BBC and Guardian report further developments. Many of the traditional Labour faithful won't attend Momentum's firing squad, so their views won't be aired publicly.

Len McCluskey and Jon Lansmen know they have limited time to eradicate opposition for their chosen successor to Corbyn.

Sep 21, 2019 at 11:45 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

"...  time there can be no dodging from Roger."
Sep 21, 2019 at 10:16 AM | It doesn't add up..

Awest Woger.

Even if a correction is issued, the propaganda was produced for the benefit of demonstrations prior to the UN Air Miles Competition.

Sep 21, 2019 at 11:12 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Destructive dismissal perhaps?

Sep 21, 2019 at 10:58 AM | Unregistered CommenterAK

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