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@Martin A .. a couple of months back in the 3 scientist hangout discussion .. he made a point of . "I am civil servant I am not allowed to express an opinion" ..yet today he's written about 20 tweets expressing a political opinion like he's a climate activist.

Climate in the law .. like when Inconvenient truth lost some points in the UK court case

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Dimmock v Secretary of State for Education back in September/October 2007? The plaintiff, a Kent business man, sought to stop the educational use of Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth in England and Wales as schools are legally obliged to provide balanced presentation of political issues. The court ruled that the film was substantially founded upon scientific fact and could be shown but identified nine significant errors that guidance notes accompanying the film had explicitly to address. As Matthew Sinclair suggests in Let Them Eat Carbon, if one takes those nine points out of the narrative, there is very little scope for disagreement with what's left. In short, they were the film's substantive points.

No such restraint in Scotland. The SNP government argued that the ruling did not apply to Scotland (which, in a strictly legal sense it didn't though, last time I looked, the laws of science are the same north and south of the border especially when the topic is global warming). It therefore arranged for the film be shown in Scotland's schools with none of the riders stipulated by the English beak. The cost of the operation was subsidised by ScottishPower.

Nov 18, 2013 at 8:26 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Genuine query..... has there ever been a legal case posing pro and anti AGW facts against each other? If so, what was the outcome?

Nov 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM | Unregistered CommenterDave_G

... is he on taxpayer time ?
Nov 18, 2013 at 3:04 PM stewgreen

It's his job.

Nov 18, 2013 at 7:16 PM | Registered CommenterMartin A

- warmist? typhoon expert Ryan Maue points us to official list of WN Pacific cyclones
Haiyan is not the worst ever, but is in the top 58 in last 60 years (from 1950)
lower the pressure minimum the stronger; Haiyan at min pressure 895hPa .. 23 in list are at 900.. I would guess that the margin of error could mean Haiyan can't be distinguished from a 900hPa.

- Since that is one region out of many I GUESS that far from Haiyan being the strongest ever it's more like it's in the middle of the top 1000 in the world for last 60 years. (is that the strongest area ?)

ah John Thorpe 18th November put in official complaint to BBC about the hype

Nov 18, 2013 at 6:37 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

@Phil_Bratby pic Germany's 10 new coal plants

Nov 18, 2013 at 4:36 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen


"I don't get why Betts is behaving like an activist today....."

Maybe he should have a chat with Ryan Maue:-

Nov 18, 2013 at 4:31 PM | Registered CommenterGreen Sand

@mikeh : Steve Connor (Climate Con-ner) hypes a single NON -peer reveiwed study supporting his dogma
: Yet check his record : "Arctic Ice Free Summer by 2008"

Nov 18, 2013 at 4:25 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Nov 18, 2013 at 4:10 PM | SandyS
Under SAF, Manchester United were never beaten. It was just that sometimes the opposition had scored more goals when the final whistle went.

Nov 18, 2013 at 4:22 PM | Unregistered CommenterKevin Lohse

that there is

Nov 18, 2013 at 4:10 PM | Unregistered CommenterSandyS

Surely the response to R Betts is that if the IPCC can find no correlation despite their other predictions of doom and disaster in all things climatic then the one thing that is as close to a cast iron guarantee as you can get is that their is no correlation.

A bit like Sir Alex Ferguson saying that Manchester United got deservedly beaten and the referee got every decision right; we would know that they were played off the park.

Nov 18, 2013 at 4:09 PM | Unregistered CommenterSandyS

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