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Brownedoff,
That "cushion" is no doubt stuffed with cash for the subsidy hogs.
On the Green Deal problems, where would a "greened up" house seller stand if, in say 5 - 10 years time, gas prices have fallen, taking power costs with them along the lines of the US experience? Any buyer would look at the outstanding GD loan and decide it was not cost effective so should be cut off the price.
mikeh
That NLP thread continues. Yes , Brownedoff, I know ...
Robin Guenier
Hopefully Andrew will do a new post on the latest insane claims from DECC - Green policies are adding to energy costs and this is going to save us money.
Paul Matthews
Connotations of a whoopee cushion.
Phillip Bratby
I am sure readers can think of a suitable use for his "cushion" and it ain't sitting on it.
See what The Grauniad/Observer had to say about his insane "Green Deal" loans when you try to sell your house.
Some cushion.
No wonder "Green Deal" is dead in the water, which means that one of his so called "savings" of £36 should be immediately disregarded.
Brownedoff
And the Telegraph:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/9955852/Households-will-have-to-buy-green-appliances-to-benefit-from-Government-energy-bill-boasts.html#disqus_thread
Phillip Bratby
@Alec Cull
I think they've moved on from Global Warming, Climate Change is a bit old hat too, clean energy (aka freeze in the dark) seems to be the new mantra.
Sandy
SandyS
It's also in the Mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2299652/286-green-tax-energy-bills-But-ministers-insist-efficient-appliances-SAVE-money.html
Phillip Bratby
Mar 27, 2013 at 9:46 AM | Robin Guenier
Chris invited readers to his website and, as one of the commenters commended Chris's "The two degree story in five easy steps", I clicked the linkand soon arrived at Part 2:
Part 2 - getting the limit onto the policy table
..................... and the efforts of the WBGU’s chairman, Joachim Schellenhuber, which convinced Angela Merkel to push for the two degree target at international conferences, triggering ‘the political process that fifteen years later led to the global visibility conferred to the 2° target by the G8, the Major Economies Forum, and the Conference of the Parties held in 2010 in Copenhagen’ (2010: 7). All three reports confirmed the commitment to the two degree limit though the first report used a different reasoning. To avoid dangerous climate change, the report argued, the warming should be limited so that we can be assured of the ‘preservation of Creation in its current form’ (WBGU, 1995: 13). This has been described as a ‘peculiar’ goal for a secular government to support (Tol, 2007: 246).
The citation is incorrect, it should be (Tol, 2007: 426); not a good start.
However, it seems Chris overlooks the key point in the Abstract, namely the final sentence:
"Overall, the 2°C target of the EU seems unfounded."
So the gentleman cites a paper which, apparently*, demolishes his whole PhD thesis, and yet the citation is there again in his thesis at Chapter 2, The two degree timeline, 2.1 Introduction.
At that point I gave up.
Sorry, this is another dope who is not worth the bother.
* - if I am wrong, I stand ready to be corrected.