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That ITV PR bod is the only person on Twitter using the term "fuel free future"
I wonder if he's simply clipped the activist term "fossil fuel free future" ?

Oct 23, 2017 at 8:58 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

MikeH I don't suppose anyone mentioned modelling they had done
and a Cost/Benefit analysis ?
cos I can't see detering a few hundred vehicles as a proper deterrent
1 salesman pays as much
as 1 clever firm who uses 1 vehicle to taxi staff all day in and out of the Congestion zone

Oct 23, 2017 at 8:51 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Update on the Daily Politics segment on the starts about 45 minutes into the programme.

Oct 23, 2017 at 6:33 PM | Registered Commentermikeh

Shoe horning propaganda into news
6pm ITV Calendar
Second item : Electric cars "First in our series of Fuel-Free-Future"
There is no Yorks/Linc's news on pollution
i. Intro vox pop "do you think we should have a T-charge in our area"
- Every person said "no poor people can't afford it"
ii Prepackaged item from ITV HQ
iii Clip from local electric car enthusiast
iv Interview with Electric car woman from London claiming a journey costing £12 only costs £2 in an electric car.
I don't believe that.

Item 3 Jared O'Mara MP once said something in Facebook derogatory about Fat Women

Oct 23, 2017 at 6:18 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Good points

Oct 23, 2017 at 6:07 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen


your faith in BEIS is I believe , misplaced.

We saw in NI woodchip fiasco that the civil servants were only dimly aware that there might be a problem and acted to smear complainers, cover up and obfuscate. The *public* database could've identified the bandits quite rapidly - if it were not for the very tortured user interface.

I don't think the shiny bums have the manpower to check all lodged claims and payments - the NI business i think showed that they haven't the requisite skills to operate it properly either. The lack of transparency about how much public money is being paid to people ostensibly doing something virtuous for the common good is probably quite easy to game.... and we know how much our green chums dislike actual accounting and transparency.

Oct 23, 2017 at 5:57 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Daily Politics (B2, 12:00) carried a feature on the new T-charge and air pollution.
It was refreshing to see them give air time to a genuine expert who was dismissive of both the report which is driving all the hype and of any putative benefits of the new charge. Unfortunately I missed his name. He also corrected the "40,000 deaths" meme and pointed out that this charge will hit the poorest as they are least-able to afford to upgrade their vehicles.
The segment was about 25 mins into the programme.

Oct 23, 2017 at 5:45 PM | Registered Commentermikeh

the whole government and the EU are run that way. They spray money in all directions and hope some of it sticks. If it doesn't they don't worry. Who ever holds the accountable? There are ranks of people invested in faffing about. I see no end to it.

Oct 23, 2017 at 3:58 PM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

@Tomo surely there are 2 things
#1 Actual cash the Renew corp receives
#2 What the gov books as a subsidies

Surely Beis isn't screwing up in #1
As it's made up of
- The FIT paid for electricity supplied
- constraint payments for when plant was asked to switch off, even when it couldn't deliver anyway.
- other subsidies like research grants.

If you have info you could msg Bush or contact Paul Homewood thru his ABOUT page comment.

Oct 23, 2017 at 3:44 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen


apols if I'm repeating myself ...

I am now (as of last week...) considerably more suspicious and cynical about the actual amounts of subsidies being handed out by gubbermint to their renewable chums.

I have been made aware of the purported payments received by some hydro power generators and headed off to reconcile those amounts with the relevant government databases - (ofgem via

What I discovered was that payments are under-reported by almost an order of magnitude... - I have a distinct feeling that the subsidy payments are in utter chaos - perhaps somewhere up there with the Rural Payments Agency rolling clusterf**k. If there's any accounting rigor and audit trail in play - I'm not seeing it....... I have been in contact with ofgem and they haven't as far as I can see got a feckin clue - their public facing folk cannot even use their own measurement and payments database (as in know how to drive it and obtain data).....

Oct 23, 2017 at 3:05 PM | Registered Commentertomo

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