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Golf Charlie,
We can only but hope.
A no deal should have always been on the table as our starting point and everthing else on top of that is a bonus.
However as the political eeeeelights have decided they are far more comfortable being EU eunuchs then its no wonder we are in the situation where we are. The EU must think its christmas with how easy it has been to derail BREXIT...and they didn't even have to try all that hard.
The next PM needs to tell them we are back to square one. We start negotiations again and you will not get a single penny from the UK (nor will you be allowed to send all those lovely shiny new cars to us and all your nationals will have to go home) until those negotiations have been completed to our satisfaction.
Dont hold your breath waiting for someone like that to come along though mate.
Regards
Mailman
Mailman
Dec 12, 2018 at 10:50 AM Supertroll
No! This is as a result of all those out to sabotage BREXIT. It does not matter whether they are Tory, Labour, Liberal, SNP etc, or EU BBC etc.
I don't think a new Prime Minister is a good idea at this time. But as the EU has only ever dictated, I do hope that our next PM stands up for the UK.
golf charlie
OMG ..R4 "UK recycling rates have fallen by 2%
and we are burning more "
...doh there is nothing wrong with CLEAN burning
..The expert points the sta only works for the financial year
The calendar year is different
"There is a 3.5% increase in incineration as stuff is diverted from landfill
and also stuff that was previously "recycled in China"
"We won't meet the 50% by 2020 target"
stewgreen
H/T The Global Warming Policy Forum (GWPF) https://www.thegwpf.com/peter-ridd-crying-wolf-over-the-great-barrier-reef
Dr. Ridd points out that coral bleaching damage 'looks terrible at first, but it quietly and rapidly grows back ready for the scientists to peddle their story all over again.' Bad news is headlined, good news ignored.
The scare stories about the Great Barrier Reef started in the 1960’s when scientists first started work on the reef. They have been crying wolf ever since.
Scientists from James Cook University have just published a paper on the bleaching and death of corals on the Great Barrier Reef (GBR) and were surprised that the death rate was less than they expected because of the adaptability of corals to changing temperatures.
stewgreen
What is the current EV subsidies
The free road tax .. which will be eventually be replaced by proper road tax for EVs
+ \\ The UK government had been funding a subsidy to make them more affordable, with the most eco-friendly cars eligible for a £4,500 and a discount of up to £2,500 for cars considered category two and three eco-friendly cars.
But it has announced discounts on category two and three cars will be axed altogether, and that the discount for the most eco-friendly cars on the market will be reduced to £3,500 from November 12.//
... and still up to £8,000 off the price of a new electric van. £7,500 taxi
https://www.gov.uk/plug-in-car-van-grants/eligibility
Plus : "government urges local authorities to take advantage of a £4.5 million pot which could help people around the country join the electric car revolution
Electric Vehicle Homecharge and Plug-in Car Grant schemes extended to help motorists make the switch to electric "
stewgreen
Last weeks Times
China and US greenhouse gas levels to new highs
\\ An increase in car journeys in the US contributed to emissions there rising by a projected 2.5 per cent this year, having declined for several years. An increase in the number of flights in the EU was ...//
\\ Corinne Le Quéré, the lead researcher and professor of climate change at the University of East Anglia, said that the boom in wind and solar power was not keeping pace with growing demand for energy from fossil fuels. //
FFS i am concerned with what happens in the REAL WORLD not activist fantasyland
The published stats show that under the Obama years , US CO2 fell and now this report says that as soon as Trump came in US CO2 started rising
... I suspect all CO2 output stats are as flaky as all
Most upvoted comment
\\ I wonder if it is appropriate to quote sources from the University of East Anglia given their alleged propensity to cook the books?//
stewgreen
After testing,the NEMO interconnector is expected mainly to flow from the UK to Belgium to make good power shortages there caused by closures at Tihange and Doel nuclear power stations. So the power we import from France (also nuclear) and via BritNed Essentially coal fired Maasvlakte power stations) simply goes straight back. For reasons I have yet to discover it appears that direct export to Belgium from France on the main route to ?Doel is inoperative.
Belgium is the country with the biggest power shortages and import dependence. The bad news is that they will be bidding against the UK to keep the lights on when supply gets tight. More increase in your bills.
It doesn't add up...
NEMO connector - renewable electricity, all the way from Europe's coal fired power stations...
TinyCO2
Why should the "Tory-Remain-Party oil tanker" be turned and with what authority? The general election voted in that "oil.tanker" and did so AFTER the referendum vote.
Supertroll
JHBs good point
\\ If Theresa May put just 1% of the huge effort she’s put into clinging to power into delivering a good Brexit,
she (and we) wouldn’t be in this mess now. She needs to go. Now.//