@Tomo Someone sues someone in California ..that is a rarity

Times Dep Biz editor writes quites neagatively about EVs, beginning with the terrible second hand value
pollution of mining lithium and V low recycle rate an pollution risk
Quotes Mkinsey research saying price parity with petrol car , not possible within 10 years.

N Lamb : "If the MP is in government they CANNOT be on a select committee
so Karen Bradly can't be on the committee"
yes you have to remember that rules out the PM, Amber Rudd, etc.

AR bites his lip "Finally htere is an elephant in the room ..... that's Brexit"

Then he just plugged a book about women in science Testosterone Rex"
Honest review
The others applaud it cos its worthy

@Pcar can you rip this audio BBC Lincs Greenest Police Farce
That's a direct link 2 Start 2h20m50 click play
2h22 "The Leaf, It even uses the braking energy to recharge battery..it's very clever"...Dhead all electric cars have regenerative breaking
He thinks EVs are only more expensive cos fewer are sold !
"once we get charging points installed at all police stations, it becomes a cost saving measure cos it's OBVIOUSLY cheaper than petrol/diesel" (assumption not necessarily true.)
Noise ?
"Well, The reality is this is going to happen"
2:24:30 when talking about costs it's obvious he doesn't understand the costs "We have to check what govt grants are coming"
"All of that (green measures solar etc.) will save us money in the long term"
2:26 The LED lighting
waxes lyrical about New iPhone claims it shut down when you are driving (that's no good cos it won't know if you are just a passenger so will cut your phone off aswell)
Ends 2:27:40

Drip Drip Drip
Remember that scheme where that woman was buying goats off Indian villagers so they could install solar pumps instead of using the old diesel pump ?
R4 3:30pm had a charity appeal for a similar charity "just £470 will buy a solar panel"
"Practical Action" fronted by Simon Reeve

3pm news : Greenpeace kayaks on Thames trying to turn around ship full of VW diesels

Rutherford just tweeted
#bbcinsidescience 1630:
a bit more #CassiniFinale;
a bit of @normanlamb;
a bit of cave acoustics;
a bit of Crick/central dogma @matthewcobb