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Robert. Good to sort things out. I choose to emphasize Galileo's stubbornness in support of his scientific beliefs.
Galileo's main feud was primarily with the Jesuits and he blamed them for his persecution and eventual house arrest.

Mar 23, 2017 at 3:22 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Golf Charlie – it was on the BBC, so must have been true…

Mar 23, 2017 at 2:22 PM | Radical Rodent

The BBC promote Climate Science, so it must have been false.

Mar 23, 2017 at 2:50 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

I hope Delingpole means that the Government will take preventative action, rather than expecting the Security Services to monitor the situation until something happens, in a Maginot Line scenario, and that it would be reported, upholding British values and culture.

As Winston Churchill said:
If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.

Mar 23, 2017 at 2:40 PM | Registered CommenterRobert Christopher

Wonderful news from The Guardian. Apparently two of Australia's experts on Climate Science have resigned because the Government ignores what they say.

A Win/Win for Aussie Taxpayers, and common sense. Let us all hope that Climate Scientists around the world learn from this, and save Taxpayers from making redundancy payments during this time of austerity.

Mar 23, 2017 at 2:36 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Golf Charlie – it was on the BBC, so must have been true…

Mar 23, 2017 at 2:22 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Mar 23, 2017 at 12:04 PM by Supertroll

I wasn't comparing the two, in total, at all. I didn't "denigrate the achievements of one to build up the other". In fact I said, "Galileo did some pretty good work", but it wasn't relevant to the point I was making.

Yes, Galileo did a lot of good Maths and Physics, but it wasn't to do with the planets orbiting the Sun. That was all about Copernicus, Tycho Brahe's results, Kepler and finally Newton, whose laws showed that the planets obeyed the same rules as falling apples. The planets weren't made of some celestial stuff that went around in circles within circles.

My point is that by always harping on about Galileo and planets circling the Sun, which they don't do, and his supposedly dramatic battle with Roman Catholicism, which might have been more of a personal feud with the Pope and involved international politics as well as him being difficult to get on with, people are praising Galileo where he was wrong and ignoring his work where he was a great success, which isn't being questioned, so wasn't part of my argument.

Mar 23, 2017 at 2:12 PM | Registered CommenterRobert Christopher

Mar 23, 2017 at 1:10 PM | Radical Rodent

Those detailed to protect the life of the PM, did that by getting the PM away from the incident, to one of various unknown destinations, by one of various available routes and modes of transport.

How do you know she even left the Houses of Parliament?! News footage?

Mar 23, 2017 at 1:43 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie


I have witnessed tactical howlers by armed Met officers around central London repeatedly over the years.

Sentries get bored + sloppy - I spent 3 days at County Hall last year watching the security around Westminster and sighing, shaking my head and rolling my eyes. A small combat seasoned team would eat them alive.

We have been "lucky" that for the most part the morons with sparking wires in their heads haven't done their homework - this will change.

Mar 23, 2017 at 1:21 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Tomo, TinyCO2, et al: what puzzles me about the London attack was that the security services bundled the PM out of the Houses of Parliament – the centre of government in the UK – into a car, to be driven… where?

Why did they remove her from the (relative) security of the citadel of the Palace of Westminster into the open? Okay, so the car might have been bullet-proof, but it certainly would not be RPG-proof. Also, now that they have revealed this tactic, any prospective terrorist now knows how to get their target into the open, and can plan accordingly.

(I do hope I am not the only one noticing this.)

Mar 23, 2017 at 1:10 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Robert, comparing two giants of science to determine who is the greater is a rather pointless exercise, especially if you denigrate the achievements of one to build up the other. To claim that Galileo did not employ mathematics is a travesty. He did not invent new mathematics but employed known mathematics. In particular this was used to explain falling bodies, the pendulum and cometary motion. His astronomical work holds first place, but perhaps of greater significance was his new combination of mathematics and experimental physics. I believe this is why he is, or was, held in such high esteem by Hawking and Einstein.

Mar 23, 2017 at 12:04 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

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