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"strong leader"
... what ? that has dealt with antisemitic members ?
.. He commissioned a whitewash report, and then put the report writer straight into the house of Lords

Jun 16, 2019 at 12:51 AM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

"The difference is that Labour has a strong leader with a clear view who has built a base of support (Momentum) around him."

Umm I think you'll find that nobody knows what Corbyn wants beyond a commie wonderland as his leanings towards Brexit are not to the taste of momentum. Although he'll give up anything to get into power. His plans to tax the middle classes to the bone will eventually dawn on the educated, momentum kiddies that it's their inheritance and future salaries he's making a grab for. Sure, he'll claim to want to tax the rich but untilities shares, gifts to kids, homes with gardens, are all features of the educated middle classes. What's the point of a uni stint if you end up with the same income as the idiot oik who flicked bogies at you in school? A part of me thinks that the Millennials deserve him.

The decline in Labour votes is significant. With the mess the Tories are in, Labor should be romping ahead but Corbyn is less well liked than any of the Tory candidates. If May had been anything other than crap, the Tories would be doing ok.

Jun 16, 2019 at 12:22 AM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

TinyCO2, "Brexit and Tory infighting is so all consuming but it's easy to forget that Labour went through the same crisis when Corbyn became leader"... True.

The difference is that Labour have a strong leader with a clear view who has built a base of support (Momentum) around him.

The Tory problem is that no-one is willing to say what they are aiming for.
Are they anti-state-owned economy = no NHS, or are they for a restricted free market?

Brexit is "Ever closer union", "No deal" or some mix of the two. But no leader has emerged to say what the desired outcome would be.
No Tory knows what the Tory Party really wants. So they may as well join Brexit or the LibDems.

Jun 15, 2019 at 11:28 PM | Registered CommenterM Courtney

Extreme Danger for Politicians trusting Climate Scientists. When will they ever learn?

https://judithcurry.com/2019/06/13/extremes/

"Extremes
by Judith Curry

Politics versus science in attributing extreme weather events to manmade global warming.
If you follow me on twitter, you may have noticed that I was scheduled to testify before the House Oversight and Reform Committee on Jun 12 [link]. The subject of the Hearing is Contending with Natural Disasters in the Wake of Climate Change.

Late on Jun 10, I received an email telling me that the Hearing is postponed (as yet unscheduled). Apparently the Committee finds it more urgent to have a Hearing related to holding the Attorney General and Secretary of Commerce in contempt of Congress [link]. Interesting to ponder that Congressional procedural issues are deemed to be more important than Climate Change.
.."

(references to comments and articles by, amongst others, R Pielke jr and aTTP)

Conclusions

"So where does all this leave us in the climate debate? There is very little in the way of extreme weather events that can convincingly be attributed to manmade global warming, even if you are assuming that all of the recent warming is manmade.

Global warming activists will continue use extreme events as an argument against fossil fuels, even though there is little to no evidence to support this. Without this argument, there is very little left to worry about in the near term regarding AGW, apart from the slow creep of sea level rise.

The shenanigans of activists and politicians in this regard are not surprising. ★What is horrifying is the way that schoolchildren are being used (and arguably harmed) in the interests of supporting the activists’ propaganda.★

And finally, the silence of scientists who should know better, especially among those who have a vocal public presence (e.g. media interviews, twitter) is very disturbing. Although who among them would want to suffer the hassles and osctracism suffered by RPJr, myself and others.

The ‘establishment’ community of climate scientist activists has much to answer for. But insatiable media market for ‘fake news’ regarding extreme weather events assures them of a path of continued professional success for spouting alarmism regarding extreme weather events."

Jun 15, 2019 at 9:18 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

I've always been sure that Western success is down to capitalism, not democracy
Jun 15, 2019 at 2:58 PM | TinyCO2

I think that is what Blair, Clintons, Obama, EU, Progressives etc have tried to match and merge, by celebrating Democracy whilst ignoring some of its tiresome, troubling, teething problems, such as people having votes.

Jun 15, 2019 at 7:39 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Jun 15, 2019 at 2:44 PM | TinyCO2
If May had won the General Election with a workable majority, Corbyn would have been ousted. BREXIT would probably have occurred under EU Terms and Conditions, and a new Labour Leader would have been challenging a divided Conservative Party as it chose a new leader for 2020. But at least BREXIT would have occurred

But none of that happened!

Labour and Conservative are still looking to be led through BREXIT, and into the post BREXIT era, with the possibility that all Remainers and the entire Liberal Party will be tarnished as bitter losers with nowhere to go.

Farage is ready in the wings to sweep in and save BREXIT, either with or without the support of any existing MP or Party. That is the threat he represents and Westminster has worked out that Conservative MPs have a simple Yes or No decision to make. Whether those that voted for The Brexit Party fully appreciate how worried Westminster is, I don't know.

The Liberals know they have short term support as the only Remainer party.
Corbyn's Labour has upset so many of its traditional and loyal supporters, as their funding and resources have been concentrated on Momentum's Agenda and they have stopped listening to anyone else.
Tommy Robinson has marched the Extreme Right out to UKIP and beyond the edge of a cliff.

IF (!!) the Conservatives can sort themselves out, we COULD be back to a two Party system, as in the US, and not seen for a century in the UK. Whigs v Tories, no room for Labour in the centre/centre left ground, which is probably what the Liberals are taking phone calls and looking pleased about.

The biggest threat to the UK will be Remainers on the Taxpayers payroll, within the Civil Service, Central and Local Government post BREXIT.

All our elected MPs should concentrate on doing the best for their constituency post BREXIT. Conservative and Liberal MPs will probably respond quicker, and because they will be under new leadership they will be looking at fresh ideas, to appeal to voters in the new era.

Jun 15, 2019 at 7:23 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

I've always been sure that Western success is down to capitalism, not democracy but the latter has one true value - that in extremis, we can change the course of the ship by changing the people on the bridge. The size and nature of the EU precludes that.

DaveS, yes, a very good comedy skit. Brexit is shaking up the country on many fronts. Even right wing comedy is beginning to bud. For all the trauma, it's a kick up the bottom we've needed for a long time.

Jun 15, 2019 at 2:58 PM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

Compare and contrast with the Gina Miller case.
Jun 15, 2019 at 1:40 PM | DaveS

Compare and contrast with Jo Brand's joke, broadcast by the BBC.

Jun 15, 2019 at 2:46 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Brexit and Tory infighting is so all consuming but it's easy to forget that Labour went through the same crisis when Corbyn became leader. He stifled rebellion by Momentum axing any centrist who dared speak out against the red leader. His vague support for Brexit is confusing to them. To Blairites, his support of Brexit is proof he's an idiot but can't work out how to get rid of him, so are biding their time and encouraing him to follow his customs union idea and to go for a new referendum. Unfortunately for us, that same fence sitting is enough for Brexiteer Labour supporters to stick with the weirdy beardy.

Tory voters aren't as sentimental about their party. They vote for logical reasons, which is why the remainers can't understand Brexit. They try to make it out as a longing for the Empire. It's nothing of the sort.It's about the future and the instictive knowledge that the EU is a socialist machine, where democracy is just a pantomime. I've surprised myself that I genuinely believe that there are more important things than money. I thought I was a mercenary bugger.

Jun 15, 2019 at 2:44 PM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

Jun 15, 2019 at 1:57 PM | DaveS

Excellent!

Jun 15, 2019 at 2:42 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

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