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M Courtney, you're welcome.

I suspect that the reason Parliament won't allow us to have an election is because the majority of Parliamentary seats (under our FPTP system) are Brexit-voting constituencies. Parliament knows (or at least fears) that an election will produce a backlash against MPs who have thwarted Brexit, thus many of them will lose their seats, and (absent a Brexit vote split between Tories and the Brexit Party) a Brexit House of Commons will be the result of any election.

They want instead to kick the can as far down the road as possible, then hold a second referendum in terms carefully selected by them - not accepting that any second referendum should be about how we implement the decision taken by the people in the referendum we've already had, so the only legitimate question is whether we leave with or without a deal. Instead it will be a referendum that denies Brexit by allowing us the choice between remaining or leaving with a deal that is Brexit in Name Only. If they get remain over the line by 52% to 48% that will of course be a powerful expression of the people's wishes, and will be final and binding.

And these are people (many of the MPs) who assert Parliamentary democracy over representative democracy, when it suits them, but do everything in their power to prevent a general election (while saying they want one) when Parliamentary democracy might not provide the result they want.

Shambolic. undemocratic, and very distasteful!

Oct 20, 2019 at 9:11 AM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

Thank you Mark Hodgson.
That makes sense. But it's such a strange situation it was possible that loophole existed.

Who could have planned for a minority Government that accepts a referendum result with a Parliament that won't accept a referendum result and yet still won't have a General Election to get rid of the Government?

Oct 20, 2019 at 8:58 AM | Registered CommenterM Courtney

"Extinction Rebellion: police release activist who scaled Big Ben's tower
Ben Atkinson, 43, climbed scaffolding around clock tower dressed as Boris Johnson"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/19/extinction-rebellion-police-release-activist-who-scaled-big-bens-tower


"Tube protest was a mistake, admit leading Extinction Rebellion members"

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/20/extinction-rebellion-tube-protest-was-a-mistake


"Forget campfires… today’s scouts focus on climate crisis and homelessness
Spurred on by the likes of Greta Thunberg, the movement is now engaging with social problems"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/19/scouts-greta-thunberg-forget-badges-campfires-big-issues


"How to explore the world without harming it: Guardian climate pledge 2019
Guardian travel editor Andy Pietrasik explains how a flexitarian approach can enable us to enjoy exploring the planet without increasing our carbon footprint"

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/19/guardian-climate-pledge-2019-air-travel-advice


"'Older generations can't understand': XR Youth on being heard
For young Extinction Rebellion members, there is an urgency they say others struggle to fully grasp"

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/19/older-generations-will-never-understand-extinction-rebellion-xr-youth-on-being-heard


"Chasing the sun: the World Solar Challenge 2019 – in pictures
The World Solar Challenge, celebrated biennially since 1987, saw teams from around the world set off from Darwin on a 3,000km race to Adelaide by solar-powered car. Belgian team Agoria took first place this year after Dutch rivals Vattenfall caught fire 250km from the finish line"

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/gallery/2019/oct/20/chasing-the-sun-the-world-solar-challenge-2019-in-pictures

Irony alert!

Oct 20, 2019 at 8:47 AM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

"Sir David Attenborough: 'People thought we were cranks'"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-50066895

"Sir David Attenborough, who was there to promote his new series Seven Worlds, One Planet"

...By sheer coincidence [yeah, right], the press launch for the show occurs on the same day environmental pressure group Extinction Rebellion begin their two-week global protest.

And while the presenter won't really be drawn on their methods, or that of political activists like Greta Thunberg ("they are young people and their voices will be heard"), he does admit his shows may have helped viewers the world over to open their eyes to "the facts"."

Oct 20, 2019 at 8:41 AM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

M Courtney

Under EU law, the party has served an Article 50 notice has no veto regarding any extension request it makes. Only the other remaining member states can say no. I checked it out a while back, as I did wonder if that might be Johnson's plan - serve the notice so as to comply with the Benn Act, but then veto it.

AK, the whole situation regarding Brexit remains completely surreal. I was tongue in cheek, as I'm sure you realised, regarding my earlier comment. I was simply seeking to point out that those Remainers (not you, good sir) who seem to think that a 52/48 vote is somehow invalid, are quite happy to accept a 51.3/48.7 vote in Parliament. Double standards.

Johnson, however churlishly, has complied with Parliament's stupid laws. What next? I hope the EU finally loses patience, and refuses to grant a further extension, which could lead us into a no-deal Brexit on 31st October, and that would be largely down to the stupidity of our MPs. However, I have little doubt that UK money is just too important to the EU, and so the extension request will be granted, and this maddening farce will drag on, the can will continue to be kicked down the road.

I understand (while disagreeing with) the desire of many to remain in the EU. I don't understand Corbyn/SNP etc calling Johnson's deal a worse deal than May's deal. It's a bad deal, certainly, but has improved somewhat on May's disastrous deal.

Oct 20, 2019 at 8:34 AM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

ah Paul H already has the Rebel's Greta story and there is a BBC producer helping Greta's PR as well

Oct 19, 2019 at 10:55 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Incredible smug faces in Caroline Lucas and layla Moran's tweet

💥 We have won the Letwin amendment!
🎉 This house has NOT approved this terrible deal today.
The fight for the #PeopleVote
to #StopBrexit continues!!

Oct 19, 2019 at 10:41 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

I would have thought the ASA_UK had a policy
against advertisers using children for #EmotionalBlackmail
There's a bloody smartmeter advert on "Thankyou, thankyou the children say"

Youtube
astounding ..4.5 million views ..that suggests to me that it has been pushed in schools or something
Yet only 29 likes .. that is kinda weird ..as if the view count is fake

Their previous video "I want to live in a world ..polar bears"
video has 2.2m views

They released a new ad with Chris Packham last week .. earnest optimistic
232 views ..Youtube sick bag advised

Trying to guilt trip me into getting a smart meter
by using disabled children is really going to work well 😡
@SmartEnergyGB . Your Channel 4 advert is awful.

Am appalled by latest Tesco ‘food love story’ too:
‘Daddy I don’t want to eat animals anymore’
... Highly emotive language to direct at children.
video

Oct 19, 2019 at 10:06 PM | Unregistered Commenterstewgreen

Ezra retweeted
St. Greta LIED.
Her & her dad told me that there would be no politics at her rallies.
She said it was "just science."
What a bold faced lie
- her handlers and their dark money have come and gone,
they did their job manipulating our election.
We just stood by and let it happen.
video

Oct 19, 2019 at 8:33 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

SmartEnergGB tweeted : it costs less than £1 per year to power the in-home display.
- That is possible but ig goes to show that media squealing at people to switch off small devices is a waste of effort

Plus it omits full context
That wording omits the leccy the meter uses to transmit data
+ just as Employing meter readers uses electricity, that the customer indirectly pays for
Setting up and running a £13 billion plus smart meter system uses a lot of leccy that the customer indirectly pays for

Oct 19, 2019 at 8:31 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

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