Biden + Ukraine + Democrats

Should we go back and measure the manufactured outrage expressed here when Obama allegedly interfered in British politics and compare it with the deathly silence here attendant upon Trump's latest efforts of political incorrectness? Selective vision reigns.

AK, when you refer to "here" do you mean UK, Westminster, BBC, Guardian or Bishop Hill?

GC. Guess, do you really believe there has been a deathly silence in the UK, Westminster, BBC, or Guardian? Specifically I was alluding to this particular "discussion". Wouldn't you agree?

"Should we go back and measure the manufactured outrage expressed here when Obama allegedly interfered in British politics and compare it with the deathly silence here attendant upon Trump's latest efforts of political incorrectness? Selective vision reigns."

allegedly?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=obama+brexit+back+of+the+queue&atb=v104-1&ia=web

Blimey...

Democrats joining the Republicans

Pelosi yesterday gets angry and evasive with press questions about impeachment - and goes off on minor stuff - refusing to talk at all about impeachment.

Schiff looks to be trying to brass it out.... and won't push the matter to the Congressional judiciary committee - who are ... just itching to ask him some questions.

Clipe if you are going to respond to my question about selective silence, why not provide an answer rather than give further illustration of it?

Et tu tomo? Nothing unexpected!

Wouldn't you agree?

Nov 1, 2019 at 9:53 AM | AK

I was actually thinking about all the false claims previously used to try and impeach Trump, including Steele's Dodgy Dossier. There has been no acknowledgement or apology from all those that believed and trusted the Democrats. The Democrats have kept pretty quiet about them too.

The UK and EU Establishments, including well paid elected members and salaried civil servants have also attacked Trump. It is not surprising that he returns the favours.

Clipe. BTW in this counttry when someone is accused but it is not proven in a court of law, one should always use the word "allegedly" when referring to the (alleged) wrongdoing. Just as I allege you are spinning wildly to avoid criticizing the immaculate Trump. Not a word about his alleged reneging on allies, nor about his alleged blatant interference upon another country's political affairs. Blatant bias in a nutshell.

GC. Why not address the question I posed, rather than swerve around it by considering another quite different question that you would much rather answer?

tomo. Swing, swing, swerve, swerve. It's absolutely clear what you are exercised by and that's avoiding commenting on Trump's blatant interference in British politics. Yet you were, and still are, one of those most willing to chastise Obama for simply commenting that Brexit would cause Britain to go to the back of the queue. You can't support Trump on his interf, but you don't want to offer any criticism either. Also rather quiet on Trump's ill treatment of his ally - the Syrian Kurds.

GC. Why not address the question I posed, rather than swerve around it by considering another quite different question that you would much rather answer?

Nov 2, 2019 at 12:03 PM | AK

What was the question that you posed? You seem to have ignored the double standards and hypocrisy of the US Democrats.

My support for Trump and BREXIT keeps increasing

GC. This is a thread supposedly dealing with Trump, not the alleged misdeeds of various Democrats. These could and should be catered for with a quite separate discussion thread (which will thrive on a diet of spite and bile).
I am somewhat surprised by your last comment "My support for Trump and BREXIT keeps increasing". Initial support for Trump might have been warranted because of his alleged opposition to CAGW, but this support should have dissipated when he withdrew support for the Red/Blue team proposition when he was informed that continued support for it might lose him electoral votes. Electoral gain trumps everything. As to Brexit, which Brexit? For me if we have to leave let's leave with dignity, unencumbered with various tethers attached by a vindictive EU. Which Tory version do you favour?

Obama suggesting we might go to the end of a negotiation queue is rabid political interference, but Trump's blatant comments about the head of one of the UK's main political parties at a time when an election has been called is just "advice" sums up the bias herein.
I suspect that tomo is physically unable to write anything critical of Trump, as are others.

"Clipe. BTW in this counttry when someone is accused but it is not proven in a court of law, one should always use the word "allegedly" when referring to the (alleged) wrongdoing. Just as I allege you are spinning wildly to avoid criticizing the immaculate Trump. Not a word about his alleged reneging on allies, nor about his alleged blatant interference upon another country's political affairs. Blatant bias in a nutshell."

What does a court of law have to do with "allegedly" in this context?

Trump hatred in a nutshell is the only thing blatant here.

"Just as I allege you are spinning wildly to avoid criticizing the immaculate Trump"

Here's why Trump was elected in the first place.

Antonyms (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/immaculate#synonyms}

coarse, dirty, filthy, immodest, impure, indecent, obscene, smutty, unchaste, unclean, vulgar

Describes the Clintons perfectly.

See what we are up against?

This is land by the Colorado, Kansas border from a plane. Pretty cool. I have no idea how/ why it looks like this

https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/1190737140688326656/photo/1

Clipe (predictably) fails to recognize sarcasm in the use of "immaculate" to describe Trump, but uses opportunity (predictably) to trash Clintons.