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EM, I made it clear that I could not access your link. I did not say it was inaccessible.
Joe Romm's expertise is propaganda and snark. He represents the Progressives on both sides of the Atlantic very well. He is currently trying to swim against the current of Unreliables going over a cliff.
Northern Ireland's Political Classes are reeling after the most recent subsidy scam exposure (and I have not got involved with Left/Right v. Protestant/Catholic). The USA is about to rectify political abuse of power, after the abusers lost it, the UK has no reason to reverse its policy U-Turn following BREXIT, and the EU is finally understanding how unpopular it has made itself in the remainder of the EU.
Which bit are you celebrating? I see it all as being quite encouraging.
golf charlie
@Tomo I see EM lives in an echo chamber
#groupthink
stewgreen
@Tomo Jan 4, 2017 at 12:42 PM
Over last 2 Weeks Times been running investigation
But knowledge been around ages
Eg D Mail on Dec 13 pg 9 listed 10 aid wasting projects.
"Girl Bands and Ant watchers"
stewgreen
Tomo
You rather make my point.
Entropic man
Tomo
You rather make my point.
Entropic man
@EM I said almost $zero
Its a fallacy to say burning FF involves expensive infrastructure cos for renewables infrastructure costs per MWh COST MAGNITUDES MORE
stewgreen
@EM
Joe Romm's track record of unbridled aggressive mendacity makes me really want to shoot the messenger. I came to his outpourings wondering what all the animus/fuss was about and came away feeling that he really wasn't worth the effort of engaging with. So odious are his agitprop tactics and so dense are his mis-statements of verifiable fact that he cannot sensibly be trusted and the consequence of that for me anyway, being that - even if he's right.... I'd wait for corroboration from a more obviously rational individual.
As to the DoE data - there are parallels/similarities with DECC output - where creative and highly selective arithmetic routinely attempted to portray thin, expensive gruel as a veritable banquet. Given that US-DoE sponsored a number of spectacular renewables frauds and failures and have refused to date to either apologise or even fess up to fiscal incompetence with taxpayer's monies makes me regard most of their self promotion as suspect.
I might take a detailed look at the DoE stuff - but given their track record - I might not....
tomo
Error. Should have been "between Spring and Autumn of last year". (third line)
Supertroll
The Washington Times tells it like it is !
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/1/big-green-biggest-loser-of-2016/