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@Golf .em @SandyS said authoties delayed reporting the Camelford error.

In both types ..we should remember that is only the minority of bacteria which are harmful, anyway bacteria need to usually reach quorum to harm ..so in event of water irregularity you'll spot it from colour or taste rather than sickness.

Jan 3, 2017 at 3:33 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

stewgreen, rules about water supply tanks and pipework have been around for 60+years (I don't know how long) They have steadily been improved. Domestic installations are not required to be maintained.

I do not know the precise wording or law, but a plumber would be foolhardy, possibly negligent, to meddle with a tank that was already a risk to health, rather than replace it. It is one of those instances when a responsible plumber may refuse to touch an existing installation, to fix a minor fault. A friendly and helpful plumber (or DIYer) may be able to fix/repair in half an hour with £10 of parts, but this system would still pose a risk to the health of the household.

The HSE does not employ Plumbing Police to make spot checks on homes. When something goes wrong however, the Mains Water Supplier will be very quick to prove their water and pipework was ok, and the problem was within the house.

Jan 3, 2017 at 3:04 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Supertroll & tomo,

It sounds like the driver had driven erratically, and the Police Officer was correct to make a "Stop".

The driver then spoke/acted/behaved erratically, towards the Officer, who suspected abuse of a drug, but alcohol was not present.

Perhaps the driver was charged with DUI, after a "strong exchange of views" rather than driving "Without Due Care and Attention", or whatever the US equivalent is, and therefore further blood analysis was required to find something/anything abnormal.

There is no doubt that people who have consumed large amounts of caffeine, especially combined with taurine (found in energy drinks, such as Red Bull) can become hyperactive/frenetic/agitated/aggressive etc, but Caffeine and Taurine are legal.

The US Law is Driving Under the Influence, I don't know how well it specifies the cause of the "Influence". Would driving under the influence of rage induced by another dumb story about Global Warming on the radio count?

Jan 3, 2017 at 2:16 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Wet Elephant sinks with £8.5 of subsidies
"Radical new tidal energy device DeltaStream installed in the sea off ...
www.walesonline.co.uk - 14 Dec 2015 - DeltaStream sits on the seabed and captures the energy from the tidal currents "

"£18m Tidal energy scheme stops working after just three months
Daily Mail - 2 Jan 2017
Todays Times article is 100% same except for title.

"Administrators seek buyer for Tidal Energy Ltd
BBC News - 24 Oct 2016"

Jan 3, 2017 at 2:11 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

@Golf Pcars point seemed to be that generally it's unsafe to drink from the hot tap so I don't think its wise to be talking about the exceptional.
My point is that with tank rules been strict for 20 plus years the number of bird in the tank such exceptions are rare. And that there might just aswell be such an exception at the mains side like say Camelford.
Im imaging that the vast majority of properties have had their tank looked at when properties changed hands or plumbing was modified. For a start most loft spaces will have had someone putting in lagging in in the last 50 years.
Its not like we've ever seen newspaper stories of people being harmed by such tap water or grandma having her cut hands in such washing up water.

Jan 3, 2017 at 2:08 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

"The protesters are creating all the issues they claim to be saving us all from : Traffic, noise and environmental damage using the field as a toilet.
Magnet to all who live on the edge of society.
Hypocrites using bottled gas."

Thats the Times breaks the Yorkshire Post rule of only reporting the anti-frackers side.

The other half of the page is
"Taxpayers face £1bn bill over green energy subsidy scandal" N Ireland.

Woodland Trust spent £43K last year cleanng up fly tipping. Seems cheap cos our council spends that on a couple of weekends of gypsy squats.

Jan 3, 2017 at 1:36 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Gwendolyn. Simples - get the government to reclassify shopping trollies as vehicles and supermarket aisles as highways. Additional charges could be levied if free coffee was consumed.

Being serious about the original Guardian story, it's almost beyond belief. I'm surprised the arrested driver hasn't counter sued for false arrest and malicious prosecution. If the story is as reported, the police and prosecution appear to be wide open for charges of their irregularities.

Jan 3, 2017 at 1:05 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Supertroll & tomo

I would prefer it (after numerous bruising encounters) if Supermarket Store Detectives could enforce bans on people pushing shopping trolleys, whilst using a mobile phone.

Jan 3, 2017 at 12:48 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

tomo. Next it will be the mobil plod censured for driving under the influence of a sugar rush (donut variety). This whole matter could end in tears.

Jan 3, 2017 at 12:31 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

@SuperTroll

Hello Sir...

would you care to enlighten me as to the contents of that there insulated travel mug wot is in your dashboard cup holder?

Off for a £95 coffee awareness course then - run by £450 / day coffee consultants

How do I prove it were decaff? (not that I touch that stuff)

I suppose it might get a few plods off FB & Twittter

Jan 3, 2017 at 12:21 PM | Registered Commentertomo

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