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I'm certainly not going to claim that it (DEI) was a factor in the Potomac collision but having had some v.small experience (including some "training" and practice operation in a synthetic environment) of ATC operations that I've commented about here before = the imposition cannot rationally be justified when training failure/rejection rates were traditionally among the highest known.
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As a retired Air Traffic Controller of 22 years, you DO NOT need a diversity of thought or "different perspectives". You need to be able to do fast math, be a critical thinker, handle multiple situations at a time and work quickly. Your background, diversity, skin color, sexuality does NOT matter. If you can't do the job, you can't do the job...Nothing else matters.
resonates with what the trainers told me on the few visits I made to the training centre. Some years later I met a woman who'd been rejected there and got the distinct impression that she believed that it was her sex that'd failed her ....
Doubtless the morass of opinion and political point scoring will continue - I see Trump has purportedly commented on DEI wrt aviation and the usual lefty TDS crew have pounced on what he said without quoting exactly and giving context .
You couldn't pay me enough to manage air traffic like that over Washington .... as Juan Brown elaborates there's a slew of confounding factors in that airspace and my head hurts just trying to imagine doing the controller's job.
I really hope it wasn't a Frank Spencer sort of a thing.
tomo,
Yeah, the pollies have a pretty limited repertoire. Something sensational happens and all they can do is write some new rules or call an inquiry. E.g. all the anti-terrorism laws supposedly to prevent something that was already profoundly illegal.
Rather than put strictures on AI, maybe the EU (and everyone else) should set AI to work through the mountains of laws and regulations to highlight contradictions and inconsistencies. Then they can put their heads together to make it all a bit less ridiculous.
Thinking a bit more on that notion of asking the chatbot to give the case for its previous answer, that could be rounded out by asking it for the case *against* as well. That makes the AI a (notionally) impartial advocate. Still has to convince a human who'll put his neck on the line for the decision.
Depends a lot on the training. I suspect the unvetted training material (whole internet) for ChatGPT would lead to logical inconsistencies in the two cases (e.g. plenty of stuff describing renewable energy as the cheapest, and plenty describing it as the dearest).
Mailman,
It's fair payment for how badly the old media have behaved. It continues too. ABC's coverage last night of the Kennedy grilling gave accusations (from politicians and his cousin), but none of his responses. I don't expect ABC needed to doctor it much; the international feed would have had their slant covered adequately.
The mid-air collision over the Potomac: well covered here (another tomo regular source, I think).
Robbo,
I also love how the "new" media will be seated in the front of the press conferences 😂😂
Robert - when I see stuff like that EU diktat on AI - it always nettles me that I didn't bookmark a serious flub by German lawmakers right back at the start of Energiewende where they drafted a law that flat out went against some law of physics (inverse square wrt radiation or a thermodynamics law - I don't recall) and resolutely pig headedly defended their choice for several months until somebody did a finger painting explanation for them - whereon the law was quietly amended .....
I do recall some name calling (by the Greens and SDP) at people who pointed out their fundamental (and quite simple) mistake - needless to say - it's lost in the digital mists - and I have looked.....
My point is... Having little to no comprehension of a topic is no barrier to politicians et al from launching into a spasm of lawmaking or absurd regulation.
How do I find them all ? some simple metrics - the primary one being a healthy dash of humility and links... I tend to trust people who show both and aren't slavishly chasing clicks.
tomo,
I agree: there will be applications where "AI" is beneficial, and it has put computers into creative areas in the role of creator, not merely a tool. That's new.
What you say about NVidia's use of "AI" in chip design is what I was getting at with the "shape shifter". There's a lot more than the neural net core sailing under the glorious "AI" banner. That promotes a wide perception of all-powerful AI. There was a comment at Jo Nova's recently saying there was no human job that AI couldn't do. I didn't respond (too late, all threads die quickly at Jo Nova's), but I'd say one safe job is taking blame. I don't think we're quite ready for computers to take legal responsibility.
Optimistically, the EU AI Act might be an acknowledgement of this, to sober things up a bit, and to clamp down on outright fraud a la Theranos. Then you consider who's writing the new laws and who's signing off on them, and have to feel they'll just be waving the carpet-baggers through.
I was chatting with a friend last night. With the recent excitement, he (unlike me) had made some effort looking into Deepseek. One very interesting thing that is claimed is that it *can* explain the reasoning behind its answers. If true, that is a dramatic change. Given the full reasoning, a *human* is in a position to be convinced (or not), and to put himself in the position of decision-maker and take responsibility.
Given the one-way nature of the neural net matrix operations (AIUI), I suspect Deepseek's explanation is not really giving its "reasoning", but the answer to a *new* query: Give a rationale for *previous answer*, and the machine synthesises that rationale with no reference at all to how it came to the first answer. That's not altogether disturbing — humans quite often start with a hunch, then form a rationale post-hoc — but it's not going to be an exercise in cold logic.
At least that's my hunch :-)
Thanks for the asianometry tip. Another place to explore (how do you find them all, and find the time to watch them?!) Also, always enjoy a Matt cartoon.
Watched the Fake News Awards. Started out well, with things that were clearly false, and known to be false at the time of original broadcast. The later stuff was more complicated. The truth is a pretty slippery thing in the baddies vs baddies conflicts.
Mailman,
A surprising bit of news from the OMB bunker was that they had reinstated 440 (IIRC) press passes that had been revoked by Biden. I don't think we heard a peep about Biden's massive attack on the fourth estate. It's almost like the fourth estate hasn't been doing its job...
I see over at G Fawkes they are highlighting Labour forcing Cuadrilla to concrete its last viable shale gas wells. We are screwed unless Uncle Don's American gas and oil drives the prices down very soon!! Then lets see Labour spin how Orange Man Bad saved britain from going dark! 😂
The left really does have a hard on for control doesnt it.
Wont be long before any wrong thought will leave one branded as a right wing extremist...oh wait, Labours on that already!
A doctor shows some humility and... gets punished for it
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14347543/Gynaecologist-suspended-refusing-treat-trans-patient-saying-qualified-deal-real-women.html