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Incidentally, I dodn't find a religion without a flood myth. Climate change eh?

Dec 16, 2018 at 11:50 PM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

"Supertroll, I apologise. No intention to ridicule. You bring a lot to this site.
Dec 16, 2018 at 8:27 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharly "

You haven't said anything that I think you should feel the need to apologize about.
Stay away from criticizing the BBC or not criticizing Donald Trump and Alan Kendall will leave you alone.

Dec 16, 2018 at 11:46 PM | Unregistered Commentermichael hart

M Courtney, I did a foundation art course (like a first year of a degree) as a hobby with a bunch of other adults. Part of the final mark was a 'thesis' on some art subject of our choosing. The tutor kept appologising about the difficult task ahead of us. It had us all bemused because even the ex sailor who'd left school at 14 found it easy and couldn't work out why the tutor was making such a fuss. The maximum number of words was 7000 and the expected number was 3000. The hard part was keeping it under 7000 words. As a subject I chose - the anthropomorphism of weather in art through history (well before CAGW hit the headlines). I had a lot of fun with the labels to the pictures. I had an image of a Herm statue with the text - is that a pair of winged sandals in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me? As a group we kept getting told off for working too hard, we were making the full time students look bad. The standards they were achieving would have looked like primary student fare in my day and I'm not that old.

Dec 16, 2018 at 11:43 PM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

Dr R V Jones: Glad to have brought him to your attention, gents.

I would highly recommend his autobiography, A Most Secret War (1978), which I have read twice. With Jones's work plus the Enigma codebreaking operation we beat the Nazis with our brains complementing our brawn.

Dec 16, 2018 at 10:57 PM | Unregistered CommenterBrent Hargreaves

Extinction Rebellion bicycles I hope - give the driver a medal

Dec 16, 2018 at 10:49 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Supertroll. Yes, let's. Thanks. What to you think of my ramblings on the CO2 molecule?

Stewgreen. I watched NZ v. Sri Lanka test highlights. E! HD now has "The Victoria's Secret Fashion Show".

Didn't Al Gore's silly film have CGI from "The Day after Tomorrow"?

Dec 16, 2018 at 10:45 PM | Unregistered CommenterCharly

3 times this weekend Radio4 lauded "bridge blocking"
It picked the founder of Extinction rebellion for Profile Dr Gail Brad*brook
..the only cynism was from a Spectator writer
..Harra was gushing ..I suspect the prog was his idea
"The group only founded in October is popular with young people across the country"
.. That sounds like Harras aspiration rather than the truth
.. If you want to get her on the phone you probably just phone Harra and he passes the phone over

..She can't be that popular only 9 people tweeted about the prog

Dec 16, 2018 at 10:32 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Dec 16, 2018 at 9:20 PM | Brent Hargreaves - Why do Arts Graduates fail to correctly identify weak science? That is a good question that needs to be understood.

My first answer is that Arts Graduates cannot identify a correct anything anymore. It is not about lacking the ability to judge the science. They lack the ability to judge any subject.

Traditionally, arts degrees taught people to understand complex issues and synthesise many disparate viewpoints.
But since the introduction of post-modern thinking into academia they no longer synthesise many disparate viewpoints. They no longer come to any conclusions. Worse, they can still understand complex issues so they feel they have made progress. But without risking conclusions they have actually got nowhere.

So on science they can understand which institutions push for which cause and they can see that the different potential views all have different supporters. But they cannot see why most of the views can be dismissed. All views are equally valid for any given definition of valid.
Thus the institutional power dominates when it comes to choosing which valid to pick. What else but "might makes right" is left?

I suspect the same comes to other fields too.
An example off the top of my head, why does Rugby Union have more coverage and prestige than Rugby League?

Dec 16, 2018 at 10:25 PM | Registered CommenterM Courtney

"He very quickly spotted that Dr. R. V. Jones knew his stuff (Luftwaffe guidance systems for their bombers and nightfighters; V-weapons). Dec 16, 2018 at 9:20 PM | Brent Hargreaves"

Thank you! I knew bits of his involvement, but not his name:

Dec 16, 2018 at 10:25 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

@Pcar I found the text where Cameron said there would be no second referendum etc.
and put it on the Brexit page

Dec 16, 2018 at 10:21 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

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