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@RR suely you can argue that that gaa field is like a millionth of world energy production sot its net effect on climate is zero either way.
stewgreen
"Whats a 5MW farm in north UK actually generate ?"
Not a lot if the weather here today is anything to go by!
Mark Hodgson
golf charlie
A little while ago a Private Member's Bill was put before Parliament with a view to requiring wind turbine developers to have insurance in place to cover the costs of remedial works in the event that they folded and weren't around to cover the costs. Needless to say it got nowhere.
Mark Hodgson
Site NEAR UK's final coal mine to host 5MW solar farm
1 day ago - Kellingley Solar Farm secured planning consent for the solar farm
Just signed 31 year lease with Haworth group for 5MW farm opening March 2017 on 28 acres
That mine was one on TV closing 1 year ago
Whats a 5MW farm in north UK actually generate ?
stewgreen
@RR
that "WT piece" has been replicated verbatim across the country on Newquest UK's stable of local rag web sites and will no doubt appear as a print filler where the page layout demands something. The Press Association must have a few ex Guardian eco-activists on staff given the more than sympathetic coverage they normally give to "fashionable causes".
As far as I know there is no statutory requirement for planners to consider climate change - strike #1
In the case of possible environmental damage there are some tens of thousands of folk employed across the country to nab and fine those who cause damage to the environment - the liability for mitigating any actual damage lies with the perpetrator - via insurance + well trodden negligence litigation (The EA have some dozens of internal lawyers who specialise...) - strike #2
The fact that veteran green slimers Leigh Day were "in there" speaks for itself.
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tomo
Effects of man made climate change might well be positive overall.
And anyway its not the councils job to consider SECONDARY effects, at that would supercede existing laws/rights.
A business might create jobs so an unemployed cyclist might get a job and then buy a car and then run somone over so best refuse planning permission in the first place.
BTW the net effect of fracking in the US is to reduce its CO2 footprint.
Whereas in the UK I suspect that the overall effect of solar/wind/biomass has been to increase it. Otherwise the industry would have given us some cost benefit analysi.s
stewgreen
That NYCC did not consider the impact of fracking on climate change
That the council did not put provision in planning conditions to finance future remedial works that might be needed because of the impact of the process"
Dec 20, 2016 at 12:24 PM | stewgreen
stewgreen, is there a specific response to the two points above, that formed part of the Appeal? There is no evidence of anything impacting Climate Change, and no financial plans for remedial works are required for wind farm applications (or are they?)
As a country bumpkin, I am concerned that wind subsidy farmers may go out of business, leaving unsightly and useless satanic mills amongst our Green and pleasant land.
golf charlie
Tomo:
The grounds for a judicial review of the council’s decision are that the Council has failed to:
• Properly assess the climate change impact from the shale gas extracted by the fracking and burnt at a nearby power station in Knapton; and
• Secure long-term financial protection against the likely environmental damage to the area.
Point 1: assessment of climate change impact will be impossible, as any possible impact will be so negligible as to be utterly unmeasurable;
Point 2: likely environmental damage? Surely that should be phrased “possible environment damage”? Such would be easy to assess, as fracking has been underway at that site for several years, already. To date, no-one has made any comment or complaint about any damage caused to the environment. One could quite reasonably argue that any fracking done has had considerably less influence on the comfort and security of the locals in Kirby Misperton than the presence of the Flamingo Land leisure park, particularly when you consider the constant noise of the many rides, and the problems caused by the greatly increased traffic that is engendered by the attraction (traffic jams, damage to the roads, soil, and increased pollution, to name but a few).
The Wiltshire Times article is just the usual propaganda piece for the protestors, with not one jot of investigation by the so-called reporters. Sad, really.
Radical Rodent
That Miliband letter yesterday.
I would have thought oil corp shareholders are well aware that the biz is subject to wacky law changes from EU govs etc but BP bought another gasfield today for #1bn
Yep surely.Miliband.should have said that the PROVEN way of cutting CO2 is to move from coal to gas
stewgreen
It is nice to have some people agree with me, for a change. Please allow me to take some time to bathe in my smugness.