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tomo, is NASA OCO-2 data going to be of any relevance any more, if there is no one on earth to adjust it?

Nov 23, 2016 at 10:36 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

ACK

Sorry to learn about your wife's ill-health. I hope she gets better soon.

Nov 23, 2016 at 7:19 PM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

@EM

nearly 50 contributors! - that's academic crowdsourcing ?

NASA mission teams validated the calibration some time back against the project nominated ground references. And anyway - the deviations identified by the paper seem to be of small magnitude and do little to change the bigger picture - as in the locations of the sources and sinks and the circulation dynamics.

It is my opinion that you are very wrong in your assertion that the leisurely decorum should be allowed to go its own sweet way - in fact I'd go as far as to call that BS.

The observations from OCO-2 seem to show NASA's CO2 software modeling to be wildly inaccurate - and it's a given that those model outputs are being used to inform government policy - FFS those models are still being proffered as a truth!

Given the amount of whinnying and woe !! we're doomed - when a few ppm changes - ignoring the substantive observations from the spectrometers on board OCO-2 can only (at best) be described as suspicious....

There are obviously works in progress - but having read the blogs and seen the affiliations of a few folk involved in the interpretation of the data there are definitely some folk in that community who are having issues reconciling observed fact with computational models driven by what is obviously deficient theory (that they have invested in).

Nov 23, 2016 at 7:03 PM | Registered Commentertomo

No EM. My wife has been in hospital with an unknown infection that resisted treatment with most antibiotics. Just brought her home.

Nov 23, 2016 at 6:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterACK

SandyS (6.08pm) No I was trying to be humorous and clearly failing miserably.

Nov 23, 2016 at 6:40 PM | Unregistered CommenterACK

Tomo,A CK

A recent paper compared OCO-2 with TCCON.

This a pre-publication release dated 29th August 2016, and is concerned with calibration. From the abstract, the two CO2 measures broadly agree.

It seems rather early to expect published papers on the OCO-2 data when the calibration papers are only just reaching publication.

It also begs the question. How does ACK know that the OCO-2 data is wrong? If he is mistaken, and the data is correct, what are the climate scientists ignoring if the OCO-2 data matches existing TCCON.data.

Are you sure you are OK, ACK? Your wits seem rather below par.

Nov 23, 2016 at 6:25 PM | Unregistered CommenterEntropic man

SandyS that size and scale of windturbine is "Backpackable", and ideal for emergency use of phone/sat nav etc. A bit bigger can run a 12volt watermaker/purifier etc and would be brilliant for disaster relief work in isolated areas.

The alternator bit is the bulk and weight. The shaft and blades/sails is the bulk and weight saving, though reduced life expectancy. There is a real need for this sort of kit that is backpackable, combined with solar and a Bayliss clockwork motor!

Nov 23, 2016 at 6:24 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Nov 23, 2016 at 5:07 PM | ACK
Are you saying that because the measurements aren't what we expected they are erroneous, or because the results aren't what we expected it doesn't mean they are wrong? Or are you giving a view on why the results aren't being published as seen by a Climate Scientist?

Nov 23, 2016 at 6:08 PM | Unregistered CommenterSandyS

@ACK 5:07 PM

Indeed ... but nobody has actually said that and as far as I can see -the calibration is stable and consistent with the surface stations. The observed distributions appear to follow seasonal weather patterns in part and some human emissions can be inferred ...

There has been a persistent refusal of the big wigs of CO2 alarmism to even acknowledge the observations - let alone seek to figure out what is causing the ebbs and flows of the observed changes.

Some rigor and confrontational kick-arse is required. O/T but related ... I recently watched a documentary on the development of the Apollo navigation system - I found it rather inspiring stuff. What was remarkable was the effect of Bill Tindall on the "herding of the cats"....

Nov 23, 2016 at 5:42 PM | Registered Commentertomo

The portable WIND TURBINE that can charge your phone in the world's most remote locations

I read this headline and thought, if it's that remote then not much chance of signal anyway, something the size of an umbrella might be a bit a bit too bulky, Trevor Baylis solved the problem for radios.

Nov 23, 2016 at 5:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterSandyS

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