Unthreaded
SandyS, I'm in the odd position of defending AM against you charge of engaging in "dishonest subterfuge". It's his blog, so if you don't like it, go elsewhere. If I say something he considers undesirable for whatever reason he should delete it. If I say something libellous or threatening he would be stupid (and he is not) not to delete it. I accept these as an entirely reasonable conditions of entry. After all I am free-riding on his reputation and investment to promote my narrow interests to his audience - he has a right and duty to protect what is his. You right-wingers should understand that.
BitBucket
Here's the Today programme segment from Friday with Julia Slingo and the Met Office's "not helpful" advice - full transcript:
https://sites.google.com/site/mytranscriptbox/home/20130329_r4
Alex Cull
The censorship of contrary viewpoints at New Left Project is reprehensible; also a sign of weakness.
I submit that members of the Global Warming religion should be allowed to spout their nonsense on sceptic sites such as BH. Bish, it's the Voltaire principle. Please reconsider your ban on Zed's Dead Bed and similar.
Brent Hargreaves
@BB
Enlighten me, what is it?
I happen to think that ZDB & BBD get censored here but that's the Bishop's decision and choice. Stopping someone speaking is censorship, no matter at what level, from government or the church down to a barely read blog.
I like WUWT's snip of content, at least you know someone had something to say. Here the Bishop comments on snipping, not as good but a least it's honest. Not mentioning the censorship is dishonest subterfuge.
SandyS
Yeah, so it is not censorship then, is it?
BitBucket
Bitbucket
Alice was hired a few months ago to be environmental editor at New Left Project. She says she wants to publish our comments, but she’s not allowed to. She’s decided to obey. She’s learned to love Big Brother.
geoffchambers
Geoff Chambers, It is not censorship when the owners of a site decide what to allow and what not to allow - any more than BH erasing comments from BBD or ZDB is censorship. If you want to say something, put it on your own site; nobody is going to "censor" that; or read it probably.
BitBucket
Alice’s “I’m only obeying orders” justification of censorship at NLP is a jewel.
My personal view is we should publish anything that’s not outright offensive... I’m generally quite a fan of at least reading the ‘bottom half of the internet’ (and don’t like the hierarchies of talking about top/bottom either).But
The NLP comment threads aren’t a space for straightforwardly open debate.
geoffchambers
Alex
Apparently Alice closed comments at New Left Project a couple of hours before I put my third comment into the moderation queue. And I’d made a point of reciting the editor’s credo before saying my piece.
I believe that climate change is real, caused by human activity, and threatens disastrous consequences for large portions of humanity. (That’s for Dave).The disaster threatening a large proportion of humanity is economic decline, of course, caused by climatophobic green policies. I said that 300 million Europeans can’t survive on the income from Chinese tourism alone, and that if the left doesn’t start thinking about this, the right will.
Apparently on the left you can be pro- or anti-Marx, but windmills are sacred.
geoffchambers
Sandy S et al.
If you tried to make a comment on Real Climate, and this comment had tones in it which RC didn't like, how long would it remain a comment on RC?
Talk about censorship.
Politeness and normal respect will get you everywhere here.
Give it up guys, you are all pissing in the wind here tonight. Trolls are trolls are trolls and you all no doubt have much better things to do then argue with the.
Some years back Zed was chased and chased by various people here as to it's name. Just a name and it bleated that it couldn't reveal that because of the work it was involved in. That is a precis of what happened.
Eventually the Bishop, after many more aggresive comments by the creep, started deleting it.
At the time, and I remember this well he said..."My property, my rules"
That was a clear statement by the bishop and most of us abide by this. Zed ignored this.
This is his property and we are allowed here to argue, discuss anything we like.
BB is the new troll and carries on in a similar vein to ZED.
Why not just ignore it and don't respond to it. Full Stop.
Zed wrote here several months ago:
(Post made by Zed about 1.0 p.m. Monday 29 Oct 2012 on Bishop Hill Blog.)
I copied it before it was deleted by His Grace.
Quote:
“Look deniers, the whole World views you as a tiny minority of nutters and vested interests, “why would anyone who counts for anything bother with you? “
Unquote
Read that carefully... “WHY WOULD ANYONE WHO COUNTS FOR ANYTHING BOTHER WITH YOU?"
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!!
Goodnight.