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Yet again, a discussion about a creature who is vicious in it's comments about all of us. It frequently uses the "denier" word here and also other words of abuse.

I think that most commenting here forget that back seversl years, the Bishop permitted it, without any deletions whatsoever, to "run" a discussion in the Discussion area and that went off very well.
However, once that had finished, it returned to it's usual nastiness, ad homs etc, attacking the individuals who post here.

Bit Bucket, another troll, seems to be leading a charge to allow the creature to have free unfettered access here to mouth off at anyone and everyone using any language it likes. ( I, for one, don't think BB is the creature another another guise.)

Skiphill says, "Yes, there are some that would be worth discussing, if they were not coming from a commentator justifiably banned for countless abuses of civility and decency". I agree, but as I mention above, it has had this chance, taken it, and then it bit the hand which fed it this chance.

Apr 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM | Registered Commenterpeterwalsh

ssat, I don't know about that turbine, as nothing more has been said (since about 5th Feb all has been quiet searching using Google) I suspect that it fell over on it's own, it did a Ronado perhaps?

Apr 28, 2013 at 9:05 AM | Unregistered CommenterSandyS

SandyS: Damascus moment.

Certainly critical. What I expect is more along the lines of guerilla warfare - how to disable these things shown on Youtube - before we see any collective sense returning to the 4th estate.

Which reminds me: what happened about that turbine that was suspected as felled by removing some of its base nuts? Around end of January I think.

Apr 27, 2013 at 11:24 PM | Unregistered Commenterssat

PB, as usual from you an excellent link. Comprehensively covers the UK politicians painting of us into an energy corner. Together with ssa'ts Daily Mail link depressing reading just before bed.

Apr 27, 2013 at 11:09 PM | Unregistered CommenterSandyS

You beat me to it, interesting quote from Viktor Sundberg energy strategy manager at Electrolux.
‘This is Big Brother technology on a grand scale. The device inside the fridge or freezer will automatically change the way the appliance operates in response to the output of the grid.

Not sure who this is attributed to
However the EU has set a target that 20 per cent of all electricity will be generated from green sources by 2012 – but these are unreliable, making the task more difficult.

or this
It argued: ‘The accumulated effect of switching off a large number of temperature-controlled devices will give a substantial reduction of load in the system.
‘In this way it should be able to prevent .  .  . large scale blackouts.’

Hopefully this is a road to Damascus moment for the MSM

Apr 27, 2013 at 10:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterSandyS

Bit, it is true that Z** posts some comments with cognitive content, but you seem to have missed so many which are only abusive, vile, ad hominem, and irrational. Yes, there are some that would be worth discussing, if they were not coming from a commentator justifiably banned for countless abuses of civility and decency.

Apr 27, 2013 at 10:58 PM | Registered CommenterSkiphil

Phillip Bratby, the article mentions £33bn of tax paid annually on petrol and diesel and that doesn't include any tax paid on existing domestic gas/electricity supplies. Is the proposal that an extra £15-20bn tax to pay for renewables is going to break the economy? Set against the total tax take of more than £600bn, is £20bn enough to change the county's economic outlook?

Apr 27, 2013 at 10:49 PM | Unregistered CommenterBitBucket

The Mail is onto smart meters;

Apr 27, 2013 at 10:42 PM | Unregistered Commenterssat

Is it too challenging?
Apr 27, 2013 at 7:06 PM BitBucket

In the past, he/she made serious (unfounded) accusations against Andrew. I imagine that, rather then his/her disruption of threads, was the fundamental reason for being banned.

Apr 27, 2013 at 10:17 PM | Registered CommenterMartin A

If you don't really want to be depressed about the mad UK energy policy, don't read "An Alternative To Our Reckless Energy Gamble".

Apr 27, 2013 at 9:52 PM | Registered CommenterPhillip Bratby

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