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Geoff Chambers, It is not censorship when the owners of a site decide what to allow and what not to allow - any more than BH erasing comments from BBD or ZDB is censorship. If you want to say something, put it on your own site; nobody is going to "censor" that; or read it probably.
BitBucket
Alice’s “I’m only obeying orders” justification of censorship at NLP is a jewel.
My personal view is we should publish anything that’s not outright offensive... I’m generally quite a fan of at least reading the ‘bottom half of the internet’ (and don’t like the hierarchies of talking about top/bottom either).But
The NLP comment threads aren’t a space for straightforwardly open debate.
geoffchambers
Alex
Apparently Alice closed comments at New Left Project a couple of hours before I put my third comment into the moderation queue. And I’d made a point of reciting the editor’s credo before saying my piece.
I believe that climate change is real, caused by human activity, and threatens disastrous consequences for large portions of humanity. (That’s for Dave).The disaster threatening a large proportion of humanity is economic decline, of course, caused by climatophobic green policies. I said that 300 million Europeans can’t survive on the income from Chinese tourism alone, and that if the left doesn’t start thinking about this, the right will.
Apparently on the left you can be pro- or anti-Marx, but windmills are sacred.
geoffchambers
Even the Sun, I don't read it normally but this article came up in a search., has worked out that "green" energy is expensive energy and will put more people in fuel poverty.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4868123/New-stealth-tax-to-encourage-green-energy-will-drive-up-electricity-price-for-struggling-Brits.html
Still the long slow climb out of cold weather thanks to Global Warming© will sort it out, or as it says at the end of the article
A Treasury spokesman said: “The CPF will produce long term benefits for the UK.”
SandyS
Nurse! He's out of bed again!
Cumbrian Lad
Alex (and other NLP addicts):
Even those which got through moderation were putting off our core readers and several contributors. We’re not your toys and this isn’t a playground. If nothing else, it’s not fair on the author.
Poor dears.
Robin Guenier
John Shade,
"Revkin comes across as a more decent sort of fellow, one who has just fallen in with the wrong crowd. Perhaps the continued exposure of the shoddiness of the Marcott et al. 'hockey-stick' will sow just another tiny seed of doubt into this mind about the calibre of the people he treats so well, and of the perspective on climate science which they personify so well."
In Revkin's original post he quoted Micky Mann:
"This is an important paper. The key take-home conclusion is that the rate and magnitude of recent global warmth appears unprecedented for at least the past 4,000 years and the rate at least the past 11,000."
Surely Revkin must notice some time soon that Mann's mind is as sharp as a button.
James Evans
Alice Bell has now announced that the NLP "zombie films" thread is now closed for further comments:
This thread seems to have become the target for a bit of green and/ or leftie baiting rather than engaging with the text itself. For that reason we have decided to close comments here. Even those which got through moderation were putting off our core readers and several contributors. We’re not your toys and this isn’t a playground. If nothing else, it’s not fair on the author.By all means call us closed-minded for taking this approach. Put on your best Galileo fancy dress and wring your hands about how we Just. Won’t. Listen. But you can’t do that here. It’s our space and we won’t allow it. The NLP comment threads aren’t a space for straightforwardly open debate. Sorry if you find that frustrating, but we’re quite proud of our policy and our site.
Alex Cull
There used to be a time when you could easily spot an April fool; These days, one can never tell whether anything coming out of DECC is an April fool.
Phillip Bratby
Bitbucket
Alice was hired a few months ago to be environmental editor at New Left Project. She says she wants to publish our comments, but she’s not allowed to. She’s decided to obey. She’s learned to love Big Brother.