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– Greater use of National Service for habitual offenders;
Jun 1, 2018 at 8:46 PM | Mark Hodgson
Tommy Robinson is ready to take on the whole world, once he gets out of prison.
He could cause some difficulties within our Politically Correct Military, if he accidentally, but enthusiastically misread instructions on daily square bashing
golf charlie
Mr Hodgson: well… no. But you were discussing one particular group (many of whose aims may well be supported by more than you might realise), whereas I was referring to a far broader general population.
Radical Rodent
Ravishing Rattie
Did you post before reading my recent one or in response to it?
If you don't think that list of policies are far-right, then we're worlds apart.
Mark Hodgson
A very good definition of far-right is circulating: anyone who is NOT far-left.
Radical Rodent
Pcar
I think many of us here have problems with the excesses of some aspects of Islam, but here are Britain First's policies regarding Islam, taken from their website:
https://www.britainfirst.org/policies
-Disbar followers of the Islamic ideology from holding public office.
– Introduce a comprehensive ban on the religion of “Islam” within the United Kingdom. This ban will include the prohibition of halal slaughter, sharia courts, religious publications (such as the Koran, Hadiths), the operation of mosques, madrasas and “cultural centres” and the public preaching and / or teaching of Islamic scriptures and doctrines.
– Introduce a prohibition on the use of Islamic face coverings in public, such as the Burka.
- Anyone found to be promoting the ideology of Islam will be subject to deportation or imprisonment.
- Cease any further trade or commerce with Islamic countries, at least until they institute fair rights for women, basic human rights and fair elections.
Other policies include:
– Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently;
– Completely halt any further immigration except in special cases such as genuine marriages where strict citizenship criteria has been met;
– Reject and deport all “asylum seekers” who do not originate from countries bordering Britain;
– Make it an act of treason to implement any policy or measure, or sign any agreement, that facilitates and / or results in significant numbers of foreigners entering the sovereign territory of the United Kingdom with the aim of settling.
- Introduce a total ban on abortion like that in place in the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland.
– The reintroduction of competitive sports and Christian assemblies;
Replace the present “multi faith” religious education curriculum with a new approach that focuses predominantly on Christianity.
- Greater influence of the Armed Forces in the education system, including day trips, training events and careers advise [sic].
– Scrap the entire “foreign aid” budget;
– Scrap all expenditure relating to immigration, such as translation costs, benefits etc;
- Greater promotion of organisations such as the Boy’s Brigade, Scouts, Brownies and Cubs to alleviate the scourge of anti-social behaviour on our streets.
- Greater promotion of Church groups and organisations within our communities to promote Christianity and community cohesion.
– Make all state benefits, housing and assistance available only to British citizens
– Greater use of National Service for habitual offenders;
– The restoration of Capital Punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers;
– Make prisons a place of hard labour rather than cosy holiday camps;
– Introduce the use of “chain gangs” to provide labour for national public works;
- Introduce castration for convicted rapists and sexual offenders.
- Reintroduce firearms for law enforcement and border agencies.
- Any person found to be performing illegal abortions to be charged with the crime of murder.
– Introduce a total ban on the word “racism” in the media. The word “racism” has for too long been a weapon to undermine debate and to suppress discussion on important matters of nationhood, immigration and political correctness.
Each to their own, but they sound pretty far-right to me.
Mark Hodgson
Concentrate on what the interviewer says, it is more important than KH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8CJSoRn8Ts
Pcar
@golf charlie, Jun 1, 2018 at 4:17 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/feb/02/finsbury-park-attack-darren-osborne-jailed
"His trial heard he regularly read material from the former EDL leader Tommy Robinson and the far-right group Britain First
...
I doubt that Nigel Farage or the Daily Mail would find anything to argue with The Guardian about Tommy Robinson.
Mr Farage certainly would argue about Britain First being labeled as "far-right group". They are a recognised political party and are most certainly not far-right.
Far-right is now how anti-EU, anti-OpenBorders anti-Islam parties/groups are labeled to discredit them.
Britain First is more Left than Right:
Massive state support, funding and training for new business and industries.
The protection of British companies from unfair foreign imports in certain areas where competition is not on an equal footing.
Financial penalties on businesses that outsource their operations to foreign countries.
Prohibit the sale of domestic companies to foreign entities.
Initiate a clamp down on the negative speculation of the banks and Introduce a national “Bank of Britain” to fund British economic growth with the use of generous grants.
Pcar
@It doesn't add up... Jun 1, 2018 at 9:51 AM
Pcar the trial was not over. The jury were still out this week.
The "trial" is over, no further evidence is being presented; the case (legal process) is not. The jury have retired to deliberate and reach a verdict.
Thus, TR can not influence the trial. As for influencing verdict - unless jury "locked up" the jurors can be influenced by everything they encounter.
Pcar
@GolfC Rather melodramatic shouty talk
As I said I see the same mode of thinking from libmob and climate alarmists all the time.
I tend not to follow them down the rabbithole
cos they don't listen, they just get angrier and angrier.
Jun 1, 2018 at 5:03 PM | stewgreen
Rather ridiculous and hypocritical?
Haven't you run down the Tommy Robinson rabbit hole, whilst insulting those pointing out your errors, and ignoring them?
golf charlie
So other parts of the judgement could similarly be unsound.
Jun 1, 2018 at 3:57 PM | stewgreen
Do you consider that Tommy Robinson has an entitlement to better, equal or worse respect and treatment for Contempt of Court, than the Judge, Jury, Court Officers, Lawyers, CPS, Defendants and Witnesses in any of the trials he has disrupted?