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The gift that still keeps on giving, still showing in the top 5 most read articles in The Independent today.

11 years and still popular (but maybe not for the reasons the Independent would like ;) )

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html

Oct 24, 2011 at 8:29 PM | Unregistered Commenterbreath of fresh

Will the subsidy bonanza ever stop for Wind

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/offshore-wind-farms-to-get-more-cash-2373399.html

Oct 24, 2011 at 8:26 PM | Unregistered Commenterbreath of fresh

Here is a luddite kiss dear :-*

Oct 24, 2011 at 8:24 PM | Unregistered CommenterJiminy Cricket

"Another load of..... model upon model upon model upon..."
Oct 24, 2011 at 7:58 PM | Jiminy Cricket

Your negative assessment of this study does not seem to have any concrete basis, just prejudice on your part.

If you know of problems with the specific models used for this report, then state them, with evidence. You haven't done so, and this still wouldn't constitute a decent criticism of models in general.

Furthermore, and more damningly, it is impossible to make projection about CO2 rises and future climate without using models. Your outright dismissal of them, is therefore a completely luddite approach, if one wants to understand future climate and our effect upon it.

Oct 24, 2011 at 8:08 PM | Unregistered CommenterZedsDeadBed

Independent: Little time left to halt warming

Another load of..... model upon model upon model upon...

Oct 24, 2011 at 7:58 PM | Unregistered CommenterJiminy Cricket

"Motormouth Bob Ward earns his crust for this week"
Oct 24, 2011 at 7:28 PM | breath of fresh air

Actually BoFA this is quite a big story with real ramifications for this very website. People are forever referring to the GWPF on this blog, particularly the host. It's now getting major media coverage that they're violating their charity status, by their most high-profile member making emotive statements with no basis in fact.

Furthermore, the GWPF have paid Andrew Montford in the past for his work.

And you're knocking Bob Ward? I don't know which is more glaring, the shooting of the messenger or the bias confirmation.

Oct 24, 2011 at 7:49 PM | Unregistered CommenterZedsDeadBed

Motormouth Bob Ward earns his crust for this week

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/oct/21/lord-lawson-global-warming-errors

Oct 24, 2011 at 7:28 PM | Unregistered Commenterbreath of fresh air

Oct 24, 2011 at 7:04 PM | Roger Tolson

Gotta love it when people are desperately trying to defend the indefensible.

"so, ok, there's this bit, right, it's about three quarters or the way down, which isn't total trash, ok, so that means it's not completely rubbish, so don't be so hard on it........"

Oct 24, 2011 at 7:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterZedsDeadBed

Yes Zed, You just "flicked through it", perhaps you would like to go back and read it and then tell us which part of paragraph four you disagree with.
What is more, if you can name any climate/weather event that has happened in the last fifty years that has not happened in previous recorded history I will donate £100 to a charity of your choice.

Oct 24, 2011 at 7:04 PM | Unregistered CommenterRoger Tolson

For now still on amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/Delinquent-Teenager-Mistaken-Climate-ebook/product-reviews/B005UEVB8Q/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar

Oct 24, 2011 at 6:50 PM | Unregistered Commenterbreath of fresh air

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