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Aug 16, 2018 at 7:16 PM | golf charlie
From my dealings with EU citizens, mainly German, French, Dutch and Italian they feel the same about freedom of movement. I think the populace or a large portion of it are very unhappy about the current influx via North Africa and Turkey. One mistake is allowing free movement of non-EU citizens within the EU. Purely my opinion but I think freedom of movement within the EU was/is generally beneficial. Another of Blair's errors was not anticipating that the people in the expanded EU would want to better themselves and their families by moving to where the opportunities are. But even at the height of the influx there were as many non-EU citizens entering the UK. At least the EU took UK retirees in exchange taking all their health issues with them😊

Aug 17, 2018 at 10:48 AM | Unregistered CommenterUibhist a Tuath

"I'm afraid geoengineering will work and we have been doing it for decades in the form of rainmaking. Firing silver iodide or salt into clouds. I recall as a schoolboy hearing about military threats from one country to another to stop stealing its water. And that's only one of the obvious problems.

Aug 17, 2018 at 7:42 AM | Supertroll"

I remember as a schoolboy (1970s) that the Soviets seeded clouds so that their May Day Moscow Military Parades did not get p!ssed on by rain. Is that true?

Isn't this weatherengineering, rather than climate/geoengineering?

Are the silver iodide/salts expensive, and were they rocket fired or air dropped? Surely they just "trigger" rain to occur in a certain place, depriving another, which may overheat without the clouds?

Aug 17, 2018 at 10:48 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Rhoda extensive cloud seeding from specially constructed ships across all oceans has been proposed, with the "guarantee" that if things start to go pear-shaped, they can immediately be stopped. Seems this scheme's proposers don't talk to the tipping point merchants.

Aug 17, 2018 at 9:11 AM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

golf charlie

Thank you for your reprise of your 2 posts from 6th May 2016, a timely reminder of why you and I see eye to eye so much of the time. They eloquently sum up much of the way in which I see the world.

Aug 17, 2018 at 9:02 AM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

The danger of geoengineering is not that it won't work but that it will have unpredicted unintended consequences. If the climate crowd is right, our use of fossil fuels did just that. Why would they want to try again? Funding? Oh yeah, that.

Aug 17, 2018 at 8:54 AM | Unregistered CommenterRhoda Klapp

Furthermore geoengineering affects every country and requires world government, so....

Aug 17, 2018 at 8:45 AM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

GolfCharlie
Mark
I'm afraid geoengineering will work and we have been doing it for decades in the form of rainmaking. Firing silver iodide or salt into clouds. I recall as a schoolboy hearing about military threats from one country to another to stop stealing its water. And that's only one of the obvious problems.

Aug 17, 2018 at 7:42 AM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

"Repeatedly inviting enemies into one's home rarely ends well.

Aug 17, 2018 at 12:10 AM | Pcar"

Are you volunteering to lead the dangerous extremists out?

Aug 17, 2018 at 4:30 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

"Astonishing. Are you really gc?

Aug 16, 2018 at 11:39 PM | Pcar"

My views have not changed. It is astonishing you thought otherwise. Is there anything inconsistent from these two posts over 2 years ago?

"Dung, the radicalisation of Moslems has not been caused by UK issues, but has been allowed to be cultivated in the UK , for fear of accusations of Political Incorrectness. The liberal culture of the UK and Europe makes it very difficult to stop an individual travelling to Syria, if they have not broken any Laws, no matter which of the many sides they choose to fight for.

I was first aware of the 'Rivers of Blood' speech following the Broadwater Farm riot and murder in 1985, when I was at University, which closely followed the Miner's strike. The National Front did quite well out of that.

Across Europe there is now a backlash of nationalism. In the UK, UKIP is attracting support from the disaffected of the left and right. The media, establishment, and established parties are keen to draw attention to the more extreme characters of UKIP, but have actually caused/created the conditions for UKIP to flourish. The majority white anglo saxons are being discriminated against, to avoid upsetting the minorities. It is only through the quirks of the UK electoral system that UKIP did not return a dozen (?) MP's.

I am now in favour of Brexit. Those who are pro-Europe, have never done anything to address its many failings, and no-one is being invited to vote for a radically revised Europe. A vote to stay in, will be represented as a vote of approval.

I have also noticed that the majority of devotees to climate science are pro European policies and grant funding. Attempts to blame the Syrian refugee crisis on Global Warming, for no technical or scientific reason, have not helped leaders within Europe, especially those facing elections.

I have no affiliation with any political party

May 6, 2016 at 12:04 AM | golf charlie"


"Dung, radicalisation has been part of the anti-USA/Israel backlash. The Moslem freedom fighters trying to throw the USSR out of Afghanistan were US backed and equipped. One of the Rambo films even glorified it.

Saddam Hussein was a friend of the West, whilst he was at war with Iran. After Iraq invaded Kuwait, Hussein knew that attacks on Israel (Scud missiles) provoking an Israeli reprisal, was his best chance of destroying any Arab/Moslem alliance with the USA.

Osama BL was well funded by Arab oil money and was able to cultivate and support reactionary clerics around the world. This still goes on. Disaffected youths are easy to whip up into a frenzy of hatred, and with the blessing of 'God', can be persuaded to do all sorts of things if it is for the greater good/God.

The UK is a safe place to radicalise footsoldiers, to fight enemies not necessarily connected with the UK.

In legal disputes (civil) between Jews in the UK, both sides can opt for Jewish Law and settlement. Islam operates a similar process. My presume something similar operates for Hindus and Sikhs.

The Christian Mormons believe in more than one wife. This has raised 'issues' in the USA. How do you know it does not contjnue in the USA and UK. Do you remember Joyce McKinney? Wikipedia does!

Sharia Law is a logical extension to the original 'Eye for an Eye' school of Jewish Justice adopted by Moslems and Christians. In the UK killing people for witchcraft or belonging to the wrong Christian faith, was made illegal a few hundred years ago, but is practised (allegedly) in Northern Ireland.

UK Law was exported all over the Empire, and some Commonwealth countries still look to the UK Courts as the highest authority.

Sharia Law is abhorrent, but only a few hundred years out of date by UK standards.

May 6, 2016 at 4:45 PM | golf charlie"

I don't Judge all Moslems, Christians, Jews, Anglo-Saxons etc based on the actions of minority Extremists. That is why Nigel Farage should be made a Life Peer.

Aug 17, 2018 at 1:09 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Salih Khater, the 29-year-old Birmingham resident who was pulled out of his crashed silver Ford Fiesta car early on Tuesday morning after it was driven through a crowd of cyclists and smashed into a security barrier at speed, came to the United Kingdom in 2010 as an asylum seeker.

The Sudanese-origin male came to Britain after spending two years in Libya, and was granted asylum by the British government. Just weeks before what police are treating as an attempted terror attack, Khater was granted full British citizenship, according to sources quoted by the British Times newspaper.

Repeatedly inviting enemies into one's home rarely ends well.

Aug 17, 2018 at 12:10 AM | Registered CommenterPcar

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