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Discussion > President Trump

Three million votes tomo.

Jan 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

tomo, agreed!

As a living Saint, perhaps she is now preparing for Martyrdom. A lot of traditional Democrat voters across the US wish that Clinton would disappear quietly, rather than go down, all guns blazing. There will be friendly fire incidents and collateral damage.

Jan 29, 2018 at 3:26 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Three million votes tomo.

Jan 29, 2018 at 2:59 PM | Supertroll

But she has lost her grip on the President, Democrats, and possibly Department of Justice and FBI. I don't think Obama is finding this part of his retirement very comfortable.

Jan 29, 2018 at 3:52 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Gwen. But still three million votes. Trump can bluster about fake votes (whatever happened to that inquiry?) but still, three million votes.

Jan 29, 2018 at 4:24 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Supertroll

absolutely 3 million votes - but the electoral college is how POTUS is elected. Both camps have had the opportunity to change that - but they didn't.

The fake vote thing is still rumbling on - voter ID seems an innocuous provision that's being fought tooth and nail by some and one really does have to wonder why?

I guess about 10pm GMT we'll know if criminal partisan antics from state bureaucracy are going to be tolerated + swept under the carpet (default setting) or some people are going to be made an example of.

I don't get to vote - but if I did - I'd vote for the Voltaire / Admiral Byngg option.

Jan 29, 2018 at 5:36 PM | Registered Commentertomo

oh boy....

that is amazing.

If the memo is released his head's going explode.

Jan 29, 2018 at 7:23 PM | Registered Commentertomo

oops ... looks like McCabe's got a snit on - purportedly threatening to "torch" the FBI if his pension + benefits are crimped.

Looks like he might have an eventful 2 month "gardening leave" ....

Jan 29, 2018 at 11:06 PM | Registered Commentertomo

tomo, Mrs McCabe should have the earning power to make up for any financial shortfall.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-29/fbi-deputy-director-mccabe-has-stepped-down-effective-today

Jan 29, 2018 at 11:14 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Heh, Sessions should unrecuse himself.
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Jan 29, 2018 at 11:24 PM | Unregistered Commenterkim

They did it....

Wonder how DJT's going to play that in SOTU address - I do rather hope he's not going to mention it :-)

Jan 29, 2018 at 11:42 PM | Registered Commentertomo

https://truepundit.com/mccabe-threatens-torch-fbi-forced-resignation-fbi-insider-poised-spill-beans/

""FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe in the days leading up to his forced resignation Monday threatened to “torch” the FBI if he was expelled from his job without full retirement benefits, according to sources with direct knowledge of private conversations McCabe shared with agents.

“He was unglued,” one FBI source said.

“Someone should keep an eye on him.”

But McCabe may also have been reacting, in part, to another growing problem beyond the corruption scandals enveloping McCabe’s leadership at the embattled FBI.

An FBI insider with Intel inside the embattled Bureau who has vigilantly worked to uncover systemic corruption inside the FBI, is rumored to be penning a tell-all book that promises to blow the roof off the inner-workings of the FBI’s controversial 7th-Floor.

This could spell trouble for more than McCabe.

This story is Developing.

We will update as more Intel is gathered.""

The plot thickens, but could go very wibbly-wobbly and discordant once the singing starts.

Jan 29, 2018 at 11:44 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

@gc


Will Iran, Venezuela or Cuba give asylum I wonder?

Jan 29, 2018 at 11:59 PM | Registered Commentertomo

tomo, they would all accept him, if he can produce $10m+ up front.
Ecuador's London Embassy is getting a bit annoyed with non-paying guests.

"The Memo" is now likely to be released within a week.
McCabe needs somewhere safe and secure for singing rehearsals.
FBI insiders are going to be getting their stories prepared and retaliation in first.
The 7th Floor of the FBI could be a bit messy tomorrow.

GET OUT OF JAIL FREE Cards are going to get expensive.

Is McCabe threatening those beneath him, or is he going for the Nuremberg Defence?

Jan 30, 2018 at 1:21 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

The ACLU isn't as far as I'm aware noted as being in the Republican Party's pocket.

In 2013, the @ACLU published a detailed reportof how the FBI - under James Comey and Robert Mueller - repeatedly lied to the public, mislead Congress, and ran roughshod over basic civil liberties, especially those of Muslims

Under which POTUS was that ?

Glenn Greenwald:

I realize pointing out the serial abuses, lies & lawbreaking of Comey, Mueller & FBI shows that one loves Putin and is probably a traitor, but I still feel this comprehensive ACLU report is noteworthy given the current attempt to sanctify this authoritarian agency & its leaders.

Elsewhere - a counter "memo" from Democrats has been blocked - Nancy Pelosi on CNN of all places - gets asked an awkward question and resorts to bluster ....

Jan 30, 2018 at 2:25 PM | Registered Commentertomo

tomo,

There is enough time for Lewandowsky to get a peer reviewed paper published, proving that this is all a conspiracy, dreamt up by windsurfing polar bears, on a trip between the North and South Poles of the Moon.

Climate Scientists, along with their devoted blogs, will confirm that, as it is Peer Reviewed, it must be true, despite the lack of any evidence. They will then expect more taxpayer funding.

Jan 30, 2018 at 5:14 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

gc

I thought the Pelosi interview was interesting given that she's a member of the Gang of 8 and in my estimation a truly evil old trout....

Jan 30, 2018 at 7:47 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Ah... the ever reliable BBC gives us "A Year of Tweeting Dangerously"

and "State Of The Uniom"

While an internal BBC search gives 0 hits for FISA memo

Jan 30, 2018 at 10:00 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Another dossier delivered by spook Steele to FBI... - a Guardian exclusive!

Authored by one Cody Shearer - some character assasination from National Review

Mild headscratcher that Steele was tasked as a delivery boy for a very shady operator associated with some appalling antics.

Jan 30, 2018 at 10:24 PM | Registered Commentertomo

tomo, Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff are both fighting for their own credibility,

The Democrats need credible candidates to run for President.

Trey Gowdy could emerge as a candidate to be Trump's successor.

All three are getting a lot of publicity.

This could be an interesting trial run.

Jan 30, 2018 at 11:09 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

tomo, Cody Shearer can be relied upon to produce the best evidence that money can buy. His long association with the Clinton's Teams is excellent evidence.

Jan 30, 2018 at 11:41 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

gc

I was surprised at his association with somebody I had heard about (and not in a good way) - Sidney Blumenthal.

I don't think it's overstating it to label the pair of them as Clinton "soldiers" - it's another mis-step - bringing people like that onto the stage...

Jan 31, 2018 at 12:06 AM | Registered Commentertomo

tomo, from Wikipedia, Obama was advised to ban Blumenthal

"While working for Clinton, Blumenthal was known for this loyalty to the Clintons and his attacks on their adversaries, which is one reason Rahm Emanuel, the first chief of staff for President Obama, barred Blumenthal from holding a position in the State Department during Hillary Clinton's tenure as Secretary of State.[9]"

"During the investigations by independent counsel Kenneth Starr, Blumenthal was called to the grand jury to testify on matters related to what Clinton had told both Blumenthal and his senior staff in regard to Monica Lewinsky. It was on this occasion that Blumenthal was accused by the independent counsel of seeking to discredit the office of the counsel by passing stories to the media about Starr and his aides. The leadership of the Republican majority in the House of Representatives felt enough evidence existed in regard to the Paula Jonescase and Lewinsky for impeachment proceedings to begin in December 1998."

Democrats would be divided over their support for Blumenthal, depending on whether they had reason to prefer the judgement of the Clintons above Obama's.

Jan 31, 2018 at 1:30 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Trump overheard saying he'll '100%' release Nunes memo
Posted: Jan 31, 2018 5:32 AM GMTUpdated: Jan 31, 2018 5:32 AM GMT

By Kevin Liptak CNN White House Producer 

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Donald Trump was overheard telling a lawmaker on Tuesday he "100%" plans to release a controversial memo alleging the FBI abused its surveillance tools.

The President was responding to Rep. Jeff Duncan's entreaty to release the document as he departed a packed House chamber following his first State of the Union address.

"Mr. President, let's release the memo," Duncan, a South Carolina Republican, was heard asking Trump on a live camera feed from the House floor.
Don't worry, 100%" Trump responded. "Can you imagine?"

The House Intelligence Committee voted along party lines Monday to publicly release a classified memo written by Republicans alleging FBI abuses in the agency's surveillance.

The memo claims the FBI abused the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act over its use of the opposition research dossier on Trump and Russia as part of the case to obtain a FISA warrant for a former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser.

Trump has five days following the vote to decide whether to allow the public release to move forward or object to it.

Hours before Trump made his offhand remark on Tuesday, his press secretary Sarah Sanders issued a statement saying there are "no current plans" to release the memo.

"The President has not seen or been briefed on the memo or reviewed its contents," she said.

Trump has told aides he wants the memo released as quickly as possible, two people familiar with the matter say, but decided against doing so before the State of the Union address to avoid obscuring what the White House hoped would be a unifying message.

Some members of his inner circle also worried the memo, now sitting in a classified room in the White House, would distract the President himself from speech preparations in the hours leading up to Tuesday night's address.

Trump has made plain to chief of staff John Kelly and others within the administration that he wants the information released, and that message has been relayed to the Justice Department, including during a meeting at the White House on Monday between Kelly, FBI Director Chris Wray and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

A White House official said the President, technically, wouldn't have to do anything this week and the memo would become public. But the official said that was not a likely course of action because the President was eager to play a role in the memo's release.

Top aides have also told the President it is important the White House be seen as giving the Justice Department's concerns due weight by conducting the inter-agency national security review of the memo, along with a legal review. That review is already under way among advisers, an official said, and their findings will likely be presented to the President as early as Wednesday.

Representatives of the White House and the National Security Council declined on Tuesday to detail which agencies would be involved in the review.

TM & © 2018 Cable News Network, Inc., a Time Warner Company. All rights reserved.

Jan 31, 2018 at 8:44 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

This is how The Guardian summarised Obama's 2016 State of The Union Speech.

We’re going to wrap up our live coverage of President Barack Obama’s seventh and final State of the Union address. Thanks for joining us. Here’s what we learned:

The president called for an end to poisonous partisan politics.
He said its growth was a “regret” of his presidency.
He said maybe Lincoln or Roosevelt could’ve done better to bring the country together but in any case he was going to keep trying.
Obama framed the upcoming presidential election as a dangerously polarising battle for the soul of America.Obama did not mention two US ships reportedly taken captive by Iran in the Persian Gulf Tuesday. Neither did his Republican respondent, South Carolina governor Nikki Haley. Haley’s speech was praised for its moderation and inclusion – and she attacked Donald Trump with calls for religious and racial inclusion, signaling a deepening Republican party split.

Obama slammed Trump several times, including when he said that insulting Muslims “betrays who we are”: “It’s just wrong. It diminishes us in the eyes of the world. It makes it harder to achieve our goals.”Obama called for closing the US prison at Guantánamo Bay, again.

Obama called for an end to gerrymandering, to excessive and dirty money in politics and to attacks on voting rights.The gist of the president’s take on foreign policy was that “The United States of America is the most powerful nation on Earth. Period,” which elicited chants of “USA! USA!” in the chamber. Perhaps a SOTU first.

The president did a bit of celebrating in the end zone, touting the Paris climate deal, the economic recovery, and his health care law.The president paid tribute to wounded veterans and to the work of the armed services but made scant mention of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (not to mention Syria).

Obama derided climate change deniers. “Look, if anybody still wants to dispute the science around climate change, have at it. You’ll be pretty lonely,” he said.

Obama said the administration would launch a “moonshot” to beat cancer and that vice president Joe Biden was in charge.The president bravely attempted a couple jokes, poking fun at Republican senators’ political ambitions and at the job security that sometimes comes with being a member of Congress.

Was the speech hilarious? No.The president said US economic decline is “a fiction” but that because of wage stagnation, an education gap and other factors, many Americans had not partaken in the economic recovery.The speech made only passing mention of guns and gun violence.The president embarks tomorrow on a trip to drive his message home that will take him to Omaha, Nebraska, and Baton Rouge, Louisiana.The first lady’s guest box, usually filled to capacity, included an empty seat this year to symbolically account for victims of gun violence. During the speech the Guardian Twitter account put names and faces to the statistics:

Jan 31, 2018 at 9:17 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

“In America, we know that faith and family, not government and bureaucracy, are the center of the American life … Our motto is In God We Trust,”

Donald Trump, SOTU address.

But that does not look like my signature, does it?

Adult entertainer 'Stormy Daniels' referring to a legal document that denied her alleged affair with the future pussy-grabbing, stable genius, and champion of family life president, soon after his third wife was gave birth to their son Barron.

When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.

Sinclair Lewis.

Jan 31, 2018 at 12:21 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke