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But, then, the fascism that is already parading around America is wrapped in flags, and proclaims itself to be anti-fascist.

Jan 31, 2018 at 12:26 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Adult entertainer 'Stormy Daniels' referring to a legal document that denied her alleged affair with the future pussy-grabbing, stable genius, and champion of family life president, soon after his third wife was gave birth to their son Barron.

When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.Sinclair Lewis.

Jan 31, 2018 at 12:21 PM | Phil Clarke

Do you find it difficult to separate smear review in Climate Science from Politics? They are both facing a funding crisis over legal fees due to lies, and the liars that keep supporting their lies.

Jan 31, 2018 at 12:55 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie


Sinclair Lewis had ample evidence for his assertion at the time of his quote. Actual American fascist sympathisers and conspirators were not really brought to book over their Business Plot antics - or indeed properly sanctioned for their active involvement in supporting NAZI WW2 efforts which were trimmed quite late in the day...

It is difficult for an administration of any political stripe to act against an organisation as powerful as a Praetorian Guard that have gone off-mission.

There has been more than one POTUS that had dick / trouser issues.

You might not like DJT but I'd suggest there are other things in this business that need straightening out.

Jan 31, 2018 at 12:58 PM | Registered Commentertomo

I'd suggest there are other things in this business that need straightening out.

Yah, Puerto Rico, for example.

Since his first address to a joint session of Congress a year ago, the Trump presidency hasn’t exactly set popular opinion on fire. He has lost five points in his approval ratings, dropping from 43 to 38 points. That’s 13 points lower than his predecessor Barack Obama, at the same stage of his presidency, and 23 points lower than Richard Nixon, who took another three and a half years to become as unpopular as Trump.

Nevertheless, this was the kind of night Trump loves. A night of unending applause from a Congress that ridicules him behind his back; a night when he could applaud himself when all else failed.
Above all, it was a night when he could pretend to be the president he never is. “To everyone still recovering in Texas, Florida, Louisiana, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, California, and everywhere – we are with you, we love you, and we will always pull through together,” he said. “Always.”

He was speaking just one day after his own Fema ended its supplies of food and water in Puerto Rico, where power won’t fully be restored across the island for at least another four months.
They may not have electricity and they may not have economic recovery. But the Americans of Puerto Rico will have Trump’s love to light their dark nights and fill their empty pockets. Always and forever.

Jan 31, 2018 at 1:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

But the Americans of Puerto Rico will have Trump’s love to light their dark nights and fill their empty pockets.

Jan 31, 2018 at 1:56 PM | Phil Clarke

But you, Climate Science, The Guardian etc have done so much to ensure people die in poverty, without affordable power for lighting, power, potable water etc.

That is why Trump is repowering the USA, so it can afford to help countries to help themselves out of debt.

The EU is also rejecting Green Blobology. The Paris Climate nonsense is dying, as Politicians count the cost.

Jan 31, 2018 at 3:05 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie


Have you actually looked at all why Puerto Rico recovery has been and is still a mess?

Copy and pasting a Richard Wolff opinion piece ? - he isn't actually known for well researched, evidenced scribbling is he?

Jan 31, 2018 at 3:06 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Jan 31, 2018 at 12:58 PM | tomo

It is the fascist diktats of Climate Science that have been the biggest killer this century.

Jan 31, 2018 at 3:08 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Jan 31, 2018 at 1:56 PM | Phil Clarke

Perhaps you can explain through your knowledge, or The Guardian's, how Trump is responsible for the history of economic chaos in Puerto Rico that so many have already fled, the huge debts, and then the weather?

Obama did do some Puerta Rican debt restructuring back in 2016, with the support of Republicans, but corrupted Climate Science should also have been addressed by Obama.

Trump is shedding the USA of debts increased by Climate Science. Money will be available for more honest causes.

Jan 31, 2018 at 3:31 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Its Wolffe, the Senior foreign correspondent at the FT and White House correspondent for Newsweek.

Even your ad hominem arguments need some work.

Dishonest Don is President of Puerto Rico and thus bears final responsibility for its welfare, loudly proclaiming solidarity with the smitten territory after reinstating the Jones Act and on the very day FEMA aid is discontinued, well it pushes brazen hypocrisy to a new high even for the pussy grabber in chief.

Jan 31, 2018 at 3:35 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke


OK with an "e" it's not an argument ...

Richard Wolff is a minion for these folk - his scribblings might be a convenient (and comforting) peg to hang your hat on - but don't you have even a little twinge that you might be being played?

You seem to mistake status for honesty + competence

FYI Puerto Ricans don't get to vote for POTUS

Jan 31, 2018 at 3:41 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Jan 31, 2018 at 3:35 PM | Phil Clarke

Dishonesty and ad hominem attacks are all that Climate Science has survived on. No wonder you get confused by Clinton.

Obama was President when ClimateGate revealed the fraudulent methodology of Climate Science. He saw nothing wrong.

Trump did then, and he is now withdrawing financial support. Is that why YOU think HE is dishonest? If Climate Science can only manage lies and dishonesty, why should Trump change his mind?

Jan 31, 2018 at 4:42 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

don't you have even a little twinge that you might be being played?

It is a distinct possibity that the Illuminati at MS exercised their Jedi mind tricks and tricked my humble intellect into sharing the words of their Wolffe -creature.

After all everyone knows what they're capable of, after those faked Moon landings.

Some might say that there is more than a possibility that Wolffe is a perfectly competent and distinguished journalist and you just don't like what he has to say. I couldn't possibly comment.

Jan 31, 2018 at 6:10 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Jan 31, 2018 at 6:10 PM | Phil Clarke

Have you been believing too much Lewandowsky, as well as Mann and the Clintons?

Climate Science depends on the gullible.

Jan 31, 2018 at 6:26 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie



Quick check at .... Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap is my favorite - but there are several more germane to this thread.

I don't care for Woolffe - having seen quite enough of his output over the years- he seems the sort of ideologically driven partisan hack who hops from echo chamber to echo chamber and eschews difficult stuff like research and substitutes his opinions delivered with some linguistic polish, littered with absurd conflation and slathered with sneer.

It is an opinion piece - and yep - I do not like his opinion. He's a clown - comparing Trump to Stalin? - what an utter prat - quoting Wolf? - pfff.... were you quoting him as an authoritative, verifiable source or simply to irritate?

Jan 31, 2018 at 7:47 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Whaddya bet Phil prefers Bill the rapist?

Jan 31, 2018 at 7:57 PM | Unregistered Commenterkim

POTUS SOTU - That's the best laugh I've had in weeks ....

I have to assume that the man sat next to Nancy Pelosi was a democrat...

I don't know at what stage he stood up and started clapping but when he looked around and looked at Pelosi ...

he sat down very quickly

Jan 31, 2018 at 8:41 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Yeah, likening Trump to Stalin is absurd....

There's no way Trump could ever write a book.

Jan 31, 2018 at 8:45 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

Yeah, lots to enjoy.

Me I enjoyed Melania staying resolutely seated during the standing ovation for Dishonest Don's paean to family values.


Jan 31, 2018 at 9:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

hah! - it'd be to irritate then.

Jan 31, 2018 at 9:44 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Nah, that was just a bonus.

Jan 31, 2018 at 9:58 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Clarke

QOTD from the MSM ....

Rod Liddle in The Sunday Times apparently

I'm not sure about Donald Trump - but if these idiots are against him - maybe he's got a point

Jan 22, 2017 at 9:49 PM | tomo

A year on, and still so true.

Jan 31, 2018 at 10:09 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

so... do tell Phil, have you ever tried to read any of Stalin's writing? - or indeed - even - any actual books about him? - or would you base your view of him on what Mr. Woolf says about Mr. Dzhugashvili?

Not that it's particularly relevant but if Melania was showing displeasure - it's streets ahead of HRC's responses to her husband's varied and well documented antics.

@ gc
that's the joy of Donald Trump.... one doesn't have to agree with him or like him or even support him to appreciate and enjoy the discombobulation that he's causing in the unhinged toxic lefty community. I though the footage of Nancy Pelosi wrestling with her dentures at SOTU was classic stuff - I'd swear that she was on the verge of a Harry Pottery witch meltdown :-)

Jan 31, 2018 at 10:23 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Me I enjoyed Melania staying resolutely seated during the standing ovation for Dishonest Don's paean to family values.


Jan 31, 2018 at 9:42 PM | Phil Clarke

Is that why Climate Scientists thought so highly of Rajenda Pachauri, and his voodoo science credibility?

Isn't it about time Climate Scientists got honest about their reliance on fake evidence, as Trump now seems to have good evidence of evidence being faked against him, and Climate Science based on faked evidence could well be his next target?

Jan 31, 2018 at 10:29 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Trey Gowdy throws in the towel on politics...

One has to suspect that the rottenness he's encountered in Washington must be a big factor in this decision.

I wonder if now he has indicted he's leaving - he might not be quite so concerned about not treading on vested interest corrupt toes....

Jan 31, 2018 at 11:01 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Gowdy indicted? = indicated ...

If Mueller's got him in the crosshairs I'd be surprised to say the least :-)

Jan 31, 2018 at 11:23 PM | Registered Commentertomo