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Tuesday
Sep022014

10 old climate change controversies - Josh 290

Alice Bell has posted an interesting collection of articles on what she terms 'new' climate change controversies. They seem fairly well established sceptic topics to me - perhaps she has been reading the wrong sort of blogs. But it did make me think that the Road the Paris is looking rather sceptical in its approach. Maybe the message is finally getting through.

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'But it did make me think that the Road the Paris is looking rather sceptical in its approach.'

Too sceptical would mean their would never be a Road to anwhere else for this nice little gravy train to go to.
So the odds on anything but 'its worse than we thought ' coming out of this are what?

More news, a recent meeting of catholic priests confirms there is god , and as experts they should know .

Sep 2, 2014 at 11:53 AM | Unregistered Commenterknr

If she was a regular reader here, she'd already have most of the answers to her controversies.

Sep 2, 2014 at 11:58 AM | Unregistered CommenterBloke down the pub

What has changed is that she's now allowed to mention the previously unmentionable.

This means that the mainstream is around 6-7 years behind the actual science.

Sep 2, 2014 at 12:12 PM | Registered Commenteromnologos

Forget that. They link to Mooney. Stupidity, ignorance and conspiracy theorism are still pretty much in charge,.

Sep 2, 2014 at 12:18 PM | Registered Commenteromnologos

It begins, "With less than three weeks to go before the UN climate summit in New York, debate in the media is still stuck on the tired question of whether man-made climate change is happening or not. With a strong scientific consensus on that issue, it’s time to look at areas where things aren’t quite so sure."

Everything after that is irrelevant.

Sep 2, 2014 at 1:22 PM | Unregistered CommenterStuck-Record

Perhaps a bit too off-topic, but just watched the tail-end of BBC’s “The Politics Show”, to see George Monbiot in good form – discussing (“discussing” – ha! the irony! – as he constantly shouted down the lady) the principles of low-powered vacuum cleaners with a UKIP MEP (who made some very good points, if you listened carefully beyond the barracking). His main bone of contention: “Do you need the power?” Sorry, Monbiot, it is not a question of needs, it is one of wants. Do you need a 2 litre SUV? "No, of course not," would be the reply from most people. Do you want a 2 litre SUV? Well, we all know that you think that the desires of others (if they differ from yours) have to be controlled, so why should you be allowed to drive around in the car that you do drive around in, when a decent, low-powered mobility scooter would do the job, for most of the time? Then, perhaps you should adjust your life so that a low-powered mobility scooter should be all that you will ever need – "evah!"

Lead from the front, Monbiot, and show us all how it should be done!

Sep 2, 2014 at 1:25 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Number 11 Skeptics have more fun.

Don't even have to try to wind the alarmist up they do that to themselves.
Just sit back and watch.

Sep 2, 2014 at 1:52 PM | Unregistered Commenterjamspid

O/T: Anyone up on how many awful things have the alarmists now attributed to global warming? I know it's been in the hundreds. Someone wrote this morning to the editors of our paper that the big waves off El Sur are caused by global warming and I thought I would drop the editors a note, Thanks.

Sep 2, 2014 at 3:21 PM | Unregistered CommenterPhil Howerton

I suggest the you take the road to somewhere other than Paris.

http://www.france24.com/en/20140618-france-government-green-energy-bill-unveiled-segolene-royal-environment/

http://www.english.rfi.fr/economy/20140731-france-boost-renewable-energy-reduce-nuclear

The minister is either mad or stupid (perhaps, both).

Sep 2, 2014 at 4:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterJohn de Melle

The Road to Paris is another name for The Road to Serfdom.

Sep 2, 2014 at 5:04 PM | Unregistered CommenterStephen Rasey

"Road to Paris." I wonder what the film would have been like had it starred Bob Hope and Bing Crosby?

Probably a lot funnier than the rather sick joke it is, now.

Sep 2, 2014 at 5:33 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Perhaps the Road to Paris is paved with Yellow Bricks.

Sep 2, 2014 at 5:54 PM | Unregistered CommenterDr K.A. Rodgers

More probably, Green *ricks.

Sep 2, 2014 at 8:13 PM | Registered CommenterRadical Rodent

Phil Howerton - John Brignell has been compiling a list of things "caused" by global warming for years, at:

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

Don't forget to send a link.

Sep 2, 2014 at 11:08 PM | Registered Commenterjohanna

The physics of thermalization explain why CO2 change has no significant effect on average global temperature.

The cause of climate change (both warming and cooling) has been discovered.

A simple equation with two independent variables (natural drivers) has been identified that explains measured average global temperatures since before 1900 with R^2 greater than 0.9 (95% correlation) and credible values back to 1610. Global Warming ended before 2001. The current trend is down.

Search AGW unveiled for the method, equation, data sources, history (hind cast to 1610) and predictions (to 2037).

Sep 3, 2014 at 1:14 AM | Unregistered Commenterdan pangburn

"'Road to Paris.' I wonder what the film would have been like had it starred Bob Hope and Bing Crosby? Probably a lot funnier than the rather sick joke it is, now." --Radical Rodent

Bob Hope? Here's my favorite Bob Hope clip:

http://www.blinkx.com/watch-video/bob-hope-zombies/4uIVPY0dkjT3tNXOTfc-eQ

Sep 3, 2014 at 6:20 AM | Unregistered Commenterjorgekafkazar

Jorge - that link doesn't work for me - just sends me back here.

Sep 3, 2014 at 8:06 PM | Registered Commenterjohanna

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