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Ross Lea
yup... I run a "hobby" electric (2kW 30mph) scooter and that experience has prejudiced me against EVs :-)
Batteries still have a way to go.... local guy pretty miffed at reality
tomo
tomo
I agree with you 100%; I was looking much further ahead when the change from fossil fuel becomes inevitable.
Ross Lea
Ross Lea
I'm not certain - but Boris bus batteries are I think being changed from Li-po to LiFePo4 - which is a hit on capacity for the mechanical envelope but a gain in terms of chemistry durability. It's curious that they didn't go for hybrid diesel fueling with LPG - aiui Waitrose are happy with their truck fleet retrofits....
Hydrogen is interesting ... but protons are proving quite uncooperative in the handling and storage departments at the moment - capex is very high as well - RoI has to up in taxpayer Carbon penance territory. Anybody know what a kWh of leccy is in Iceland? ("free" electrons help....) fwiw Reykyavik is about the size of Cheltenham....
LPG is well tried, uses conventional technology, has a raft of positive features for urban use and maintainability, it's cheap - what's not to like? (OK... I run 3 LPG vehicles.....)
tomo
@SandyS This is not the @DavidTCDavies MP for Monmouth. who has spoke up well against Climate Madness June 11th.. great video are there any more?
It is David Davis MP for Haltemprice and Howden.
- I wonder if our DD had anything to do with the govs sudden rationalisations?
- Bus Battery story was covered by Homewood repeated by Tallbloke,but a Homewood commentator actually toldus in Nov 2013
- DailyExpress have picked up the 2013 Ice story What Global Warming? Arctic ice caps have INCREASED in size despite climate change warning
BUT WTF "The findings, which appear in the journal Nature Geoscience, suggest limiting carbon emissions could have an even greater effect on the planet than previously expected, as the Arctic appears to respond quickly to slight environmental changes." ..are they trying a few wind turbines have caused it? cos in reality CO2 has still been shooting up.
- Article attempts to be all things to all men ..ends by quoting Greenpeace.
@RL Hydrogen FCV "The main problem with FCVs is that more energy is used producing the hydrogen fuel and powering them than a regular EV. Pollution is a serious issue as well: FCVs are more expensive to buy and operate than EVs." link
- They seem to imply that if you have electricity you might aswell put it in a battery cos you lose 20% in coverting water to hydrogen step. But then their is lot of advertisng money invested in pushing electric vehicles.
stewgreen
Hydrogen Powered buses have been running in Iceland for over three years very successfully using fuel cell technology.
https://ec.europa.eu/research/environment/newsanddoc/article_3894_en.htm
Why did Boris not do his home work? The Batteries his busses use are well known to be useless; NiFe cells would have been better they have been used before in this application.
In my view hydrogen power is the future for transport; there is currently a lot of research and development going on.
Hydrogen or Nuclear power is clearly the way forward for world shipping (supplemented by the wind when available.
After all the Cutty Sark did quite well !
Ross Lea
John Shade
Have a look at TfL's "sustainable" transport document - I defy aanybody to demonstrate that it was drafted by anything but a crew of ignorant (and OK... stupid) green idjits looking to score anti fossil fuel brownie points with their gallery of NGO lobbyists... LPG fueled buses are operating successfuly all over the place (Hong Kong comes to mind) and have much to recommend them, quiet(er), no black (or white) smoke, low maintenance vs. diesel, cheap fuel.
Manchester's sustainable transport brigade bring us the "sustainable" gearbox
It's all arse about face - the engineers are brought in to pick up on and attempt to make flesh the doolally fantasies of Caroline Lucas, Huhne, Deben and the carnival of twerps in charge masquerading as competent and responsible public servants supposedly delivering effective public services.... what a farce.
tomo
Something else to be added to the bill for losses caused by green sickness reaching policy makers. In this case, the losses are being felt first by bus drivers in London who have to endure buses that don't work very well: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/07/21/londons-greener-cleaner-hybrid-buses-are-running-on-diesel-thanks-to-battery-problems/ The financial loss includes paying £100,000 more per bus than was necessary.
John Shade
@jamesp thanks for your link to the debunking of the Tim Hunt story ..It's staggering how the greenleftys decide truth needs a helping hand by deceiving
@tomo Now My comments on that BBC mindset and how it leads to faking . In an edition of the Naked Scientists last year, they had an audience Q&A a man in the audience was picked for a question, he asked a question with an alarmist premise, they don't deny that the "public man" had a BBC science prog at the time and had also worked with one member of the panel, but they vehemently denied it was a planted question and said the guy was "freelance"
They do the programmes in English cos they think that is the language of their public, but they also assume that Greenleft right-on, rabid anti-racist, rabid antisexist is the natural mindset of the public.
The BBC carries boths sides of the argument both Marxist and Leninist
Motto, Nation shall speak peace unto Nation
No, more like : GreenLefty shall speak piss unto GreenLefty
On Twitter 30 odd GreenActivists did protest about Nigel Lawson getting 3 minutes to speak on Global warming
Yet the normal 24 hour Green/Left propaganda banging-on about Labour/SNP was resumed after that 45 min prog
And the Week before in the prog where Peston and Mair pick the hero of the day to interview Peston picked "Someone who has been in my world, my professional world .. known him for 20 years"
Alan Rusbridger (when asked if "he's a friend ?" Peston declined to answer)
YEP have a look at the photo of those 3 and tell me that is DIVERSITY
- Last week they picked Mrs Windfarm , Nick Cleggs wife.
- Hey guess who Mair chose this week ? Someone Peston worked with for a long time (so a friend ?) .... Christopher Huhne from 2005 to 2013 and the Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change.
..The guestlist seems like a CLIQUE rather than DIVERSITY
I wonder if they were paid for their time ?
Even this week's Making History is a special on "environmental history"
- history of sustainability
- "With the historian of wood energy use and environmental thought" Paul Warde
stewgreen
Tallbloke highlighting a 10 Minute Rule speech by David Davis last Tuesday.
David Davis MP used the 10 minute rule to introduce a Private Members Bill, to propose legislation to prevent wind farm firms from avoiding their responsibilities. Mr Davis explained that these wind farm operators, that can be valued in the billions, use shell organisations to build and operate these sites, while ensuing that these shells have greater liabilities than assets, effectively broke. This can prevent, for instance, a local resident from winning damages for health problems from infrasound or flicker. This legislation may also require a Bond to cover the costs of decommissioning.
Public nuisance from wind farms (mandatory liability cover) Bill
SandyS
Surely buses would have been a prime user of quick battery swap tech, as they are always passing depot.
Oh hang on 'Battery Swap is Dead' Delorean Musk isn't doing any more
In his own words "very low take rate" "4 people out of 200 only did it once"
'People preferred to do a FREE 30 supercharge rather than pay $60 for a battery swap'
Before/After video
More video : David T.C. Davies spoke so well in parliament cos he did a longer 17 min version at this public meeting in 2014 May 8, 2014
only 64 views Alarmist Prof James Scourse speaks first,
best jump to David here at min 29
there is part 2 Q&A 59 mins. Beware loud green clapping
DD: "The Risk Assessment - IPCC say the economic cost of GW is 2% if it all goes wrong - Yet IPCC say sacrifice 1-4% now" "Now the risk the public aren't going to buy it" "I listen to the public" "cost of their bills , and I am not going to be the one that drives up electricity bill, in order.."