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https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/10/07/cutting-through-the-myths-about-irma-harvey-and-climate-change/
Everything you wanted to know, but Climate Science was frightened to tell.
golf charlie
@TinyCO2
It's clear that the actual use of smart meters is going to be to enabling a ransom mechanism for consumers of electricity at peak times. I'd expect plenty of antics from the retailers with what constitutes peak time.
@Pcar
relays / contactors are still popular because they provide an air gap - solid state power devices have to go some to fail open cct and an open is usually provoked by a *good* short.... I doubt that turning an individual supply off is going to happen - unless it's because a bill hasn't been paid.
tomo
From a purely practical point, living on low demand electricity would be quite hard. Nobody wants to wait until 11 at night to start the vacuuming or the washing machine, let alone the oven or kettle. Getting up before 6 for a power shower would be quite hard too. Fridges and freezers would have to have an overide so that they could draw power if they needed to. There's a strong drive for us to take up 'smart' devices to run our lives for us. Not in my house. Where possible my stuff is dumb and when they start having an opinion they get a swift trip to the tip.
TinyCO2
@mikeh, Oct 7, 2017 at 2:35 PM
On the smart meter issue, we often hear that they will enable demand management but is there any info on how that might be implemented in practical terms?
It's a puzzle to me because, as I understand it, the smart meter simply replaces the old device. In that case it is separate from the switchboard so could not cut the main power circuits selectively to leave just the lights running. Also, it would have to be integrated with the main breaker, unlike the old unit, to have the facility to cut power completely.
If the meter contains a suitable relay, triac or mosfet in series with the supply, it could turn power off/on when an instruction is sent.
Do they? No idea.
Pcar
Smart Meters and demand management
The easiest thing to understand about smart meters in the UK is that they will do away with a workforce of thousands of meter readers and enable the electricity retailers to drive the market into mobile phone style rip off tariff hell. Demand management can only be on the basis of price - peaking the price to lower demand. The retailers have resisted mightily the extension of off-peak discount metering.
It's a complete ballsup unless you're an electricity retailer - or a clipboard wielding incompetent jobsworth numpty at Ofgem or other parasitic crews of consumer advocates/regulators/bureaucrats that are mobbing the issue for their own purposes.
The users / consumers are the absolute lowest priority of the lot.
The idea that Greenpiece, FoE and assorted other green twerps are driving electricity utility policy via their ideological activists embedded in our public bodies should really worry anybody who's concerned about honestly priced electrons and reliability of supply.
tomo
'Cheat - you plagiarised the post I was about to post ;) 'Pcar
Lol, I hate when that happens.
For more irony, guess what car was being driven by the latest London 'attack'? Is this the first green attack? Or a green driver who though it was ok to drink and drive a Prius.
TinyCO2
Loads worth considering for demand management
- immersion heater, but who uses them , cos they are inefficient.
- charger for electric car
- washing machine ..ie set to run at night ..noise issue ?
- Freezer
... Dodgy from health and safety.. Can you risk possible food poisoning.
stewgreen
On the smart meter issue, we often hear that they will enable demand management but is there any info on how that might be implemented in practical terms?
It's a puzzle to me because, as I understand it, the smart meter simply replaces the old device. In that case it is separate from the switchboard so could not cut the main power circuits selectively to leave just the lights running. Also, it would have to be integrated with the main breaker, unlike the old unit, to have the facility to cut power completely.
The latter case would mean plunging a home into total darkness without warning: it's hard to see how that could be squared with H&S, welfare, etc..
Perhaps this is another case of fake news and/or scare-mongering?
mikeh
They had such a great year exploring the NWP in 2016, they were able to find out how far the Franklin Expedition had got, before Global Warming was invented in the 1840s
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/12/hms-terror-wreck-found-arctic-nearly-170-years-northwest-passage-attempt
This was after HMS Investigator had been found exactly where she had been abandoned:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Investigator_(1848)
NWP adventurers in 2017 seem to have suffered from obstructed passages, much as Pen Hadow did.
golf charlie
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