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Thanks @Golf I go with facts I don't have to trade insults
(BTW why say he ignored advice , when he was following his legal advice AFAIK)
If anyone else is interested Ezra Levant who started as a Canadian lawyer
His 1 hour video goes through the case and the BBC reporting of it
Pointing out things like that the names and charges pf the 29 are listed on a BBC webpage
He also compares this case to previous Contempt of court cases.
\\ George Galloway's former assistant broke TWO court-ordered publication bans 26 TIMES.
She was convicted of contempt of court but sentenced to just 12 weeks //
Interesting ..truth should come out in time.
Today's newspapers all contained almost idendical hit pieces against TR, full of misrepresentation and false narrative.
Exactly the same as when they were promising to soon present the Trump Moscow prostitutes video
stewgreen
Taxpayers Money To Bribe Blacks To Be Green
Will Norman, Sadiq Khan's new cycling tsar claimed.
Too few females and people from ethnic minority backgrounds are taking to two wheels around the capital and the Mayor's office could introduce 'diversity targets' to combat the figures.
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The way in which the gap will be filled, Mr Norman says, is through projects cycling courses and grants for community groups who do not typically cycle.
If bribes don't work to meet diversity targets; then what?
Pcar
I am perfectly willing to stipulate the TR did not act wisely if he wanted to avoid retribution.
However. Islam is a problem to the UK way of life without any extremism or terrorism being involved. Ordinary Islamic believers cannot carry out the basics of their religion (their culture, their behaviour, not their race) side-by-side with British secular people without problems. I am not in the least worried by terrorism. I am worried by the establishment's creeping acceptance of Islamic practices out of tune with our own culture and tradition. And by the way they come down on anyone who points it out. Oh, and if you don't think 'they' have been gunning for TR for years you are giving them a lot of your confidence with no justification. This is not equal rights under the law.
Rhoda Klapp
May 30, 2018 at 2:55 PM | tomo
That is how I first came across The Secret Barrister.
He also explains that the arrest for "Breach of the Peace" is a Legal Red Herring.
golf charlie
May 30, 2018 at 1:36 PM | Rhoda Klapp
In this instance, "The Law" was not being an ass, or vindictive. Tommy Robinson was warned and was on a suspended sentence. What did he expect to happen?
What was he hoping to stir up in 2017 that landed him in Court then? What was he hoping to achieve this time? I do not know, but the speed of reaction by The Court seems to have caught out him, his supporters and sympathisers. That is why I have speculated that there was a Plan A to deal with him, should HE CAUSE THE NEED TO ARISE. This legal action has been running for months without any trouble arising.
Public demonstrations are not illegal in the UK (subject to local constraints, by-laws etc). He has not been charged with inciting hatred https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_and_Religious_Hatred_Act_2006
I presume that broadcasting adjacent to the Court about anything to do with the on-going Case was sufficient to make "Contempt of Court" a foregone conclusion or guilty verdict in this instance. Robinson failed to realise this, or thought that public opinion over a Bank Holiday would count in his favour until after Lawyers got back to work this week. The video evidence of his arrest confirms him asking for a Lawyer. He does NOT "Incite Hatred".
I have not reviewed all his output to determine whether he has made false statements about Islam. I certainly agree that Moslem extremists are a major threat, and privately, most Moslems would agree. They also fear the extremists. They also fear the backlash caused by extremists, and Court Cases that expose the wrongs within their own culture.
Jimmy Saville and Cyril Smith "got away with it". No one chose to take their victims seriously. Over the last 5-10 years there has been a major change in attitudes. Who would have thought the extent of problems within Professional Football? How many suicides resulted from it?
There have been a series of Court Cases in Oxfordshire involving Moslem men. I believe this may have been going on for 10+ years without the Police/Social Services/Establishment acknowledging it. Is this just down to incompetence or Political Correctness going wrong? I don't know, but that should be explored further, if the Politically Correct will allow it.
Meanwhile, Tommy Robinson has destroyed himself, and damaged the credibility of his supporters and sympathisers as demonstrated here, elsewhere on the Internet including YouTube videos. Legal advice is wasted on some people. They will never listen, unless it suits their conclusions.
golf charlie
Tim Newman has what I think is a good piece up on the TR business esp. with respect to The Secret Barrister's "barristering" stance...
tomo
GC, evidence that TR was trying to stir up street protest based on his actual statements? Or that street protests are not legal to stir up? Or that he has made false statementss about Islam in the UK. His main offence seems to be he won't shut up about a problem the establishment would rather have kept quiet, as if we will not notice if it is not mentioned.
Rhoda Klapp
May 30, 2018 at 10:33 AM | stewgreen
You are just proving yourself to be ridiculous. Go back and read the Guido Fawkes cartoon.
Which bit of "Do that again, and you will be going to prison" did Tommy Robinson NOT understand. Which bit are you still struggling with?
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"It appears you dislike TR and believe he should be not be equal in law.
First they came for Tommy, then they came for Golfs..."
May 30, 2018 at 1:14 AM | Pcar
Tommy Robinson was the one trying to stir up hatred and street justice.
I look forward to the conclusion of these trials under UK Law.
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If you want a scandal, why is it that some of these cases go back so many years? Why have the victims been ignored by the UK's Justice system for so long? Irrespective of their colour race politics or creed, there are some others who should stand trial, for incompetence.
golf charlie
Tommy this, an' Tommy that ...an' Tommy go away
Seven coppers showed up in whatever they use instead of a Black Maria these days, tossed him inside it and drove off. In other words, these were not "investigating officers" called to the scene: They showed up with the intent to take him away.
The judge in the case, one Geoffrey Marson, spent all of four minutes on trying, convicting and sentencing Robinson. It is not clear whether that leisurely tribunal included his order expressly forbidding "any report on these proceedings"
Does the four minutes include the time he stood at window with arresting police woman telling her "arrest him, he's going down"? Verdict before trial?
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Whoever you are – black, white, Muslim, Christian, Atheist, Golf, young, old, rich, poor, gay, straight, left or right – if you dare to dispute the absolute power and control of the State, you will be picked off and destroyed.
Blair's legacy of packing HoL, Civil Service, Police, Judiciary, Quangos, MSM... with Left PC SJWs who loathe the electorate will remain with us until a strong Conservative PM reverses it.
@GC, you may dislike TR; do you dislike not being free to openly discuss RoP crimes, LGBTxyz etc on bus/train, in cafe/pub?