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@Uibhist a Tuath 8:45 PM

\\ Swapped 74K RANDOM JOBSEEKING EU nationals
for 74K non EU non UK nationals ON PROPER CLEARED WORK VISAS WHO HAVE A JOB TO SLOT INTO à reduction overall of 12K isn't what the majority had in mind.//

Dunno getting a registered migrant on a limited work visa is better than getting random Bulgarian mafia guy whos going to sign up for 2 council houses so he can sublet the other

Aug 14, 2018 at 9:56 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen
Aug 14, 2018 at 9:36 PM | Registered Commenterstewgreen

Pcar / stewgreen

reality intrudes indeed as far as council housing is concerned. Where public/taxpayer subsidy is applied I'm struggling to offer an example where it hasn't been abused and peculation and loss hasn't accrued to the public purse.

The quantity of subletting prevailing in the Grenfell Tower and by inference across London's "affordable housing" is an indicator that bureaucrats and property management aren't a good fit.... at least for those footing the bills.

Aug 14, 2018 at 9:27 PM | Registered Commentertomo

@rhoda, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:36 PM

It is subsidy, and in my humble opinion subsidy is a tool which should be used sparingly and with a time limit.


Which is why free school milk was ended - the malnutrition problem was cured, subsidy no longer necessary. If only more were ended.

Aug 14, 2018 at 8:57 PM | Registered CommenterPcar

@stewgreen, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:52 PM



@tomo, Aug 14, 2018 at 10:51 AM

Why released funds weren't allowed to be used for replacement [housing] stock

1. State should not be providing housing [or food, clothes, holidays, cars, TVs....]

2. Hidden subsidies, no incentive to minimise costs

3. Inefficient mgt of existing and of new-build - late, over budget

4. Lower rates bills

5. Council housing was ring-fenced and meant to be budget capped; councils found many dishonest ways to circumvent

this and continue to fleece ratepayers. Hence Pt 1

Aug 14, 2018 at 8:54 PM | Registered CommenterPcar

@golf charlie, Aug 13, 2018 at 6:30 AM your sunday posts. Nothing pleasant at all, ...

Done. Nothing stands out as unpleasant. Which post(s) and words are you referring too?

Aug 14, 2018 at 8:53 PM | Registered CommenterPcar

ONS Data
Comparing the estimates for employment by nationality (not seasonally adjusted) for April to June 2018 with those for a year earlier:

UK nationals working in the UK increased by 332,000 to 28.76 million

EU nationals working in the UK fell by 86,000 to 2.28 million (the largest annual fall since comparable records began in 1997)

non-EU nationals working in the UK increased by 74,000 to 1.27 million.

Swapped 74K EU nationals for 74K non EU non UK nationals giving à reduction overall of 12K isn't what the majority had in mind.

Aug 14, 2018 at 8:45 PM | Unregistered CommenterUibhist a Tuath

Despite lots of uncertainties and caveats in the article, the headline is unashamedly alarmist:

Next few years 'may be exceptionally warm'

Aug 14, 2018 at 7:15 PM | Unregistered CommenterMark Hodgson

The industrial revolution produced housing known as slums.

Later Victorians produced better housing that evolved into the Edwardian Terrace.

Cavity walls arrived in the 1920s

The 1940s produced prefabricated housing.

The 1960s produced concrete tower blocks, such as Grenfell Tower.

When did central heating arrive? Councils found electric so much cheaper

The 1980s produced timber framed housing.

The buying public still want bricks and mortar (blockwork inner leaf of the cavity) They CAN choose.

Aug 14, 2018 at 6:51 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Rhoda Klapp

If you were Mayor of Erehwon District Council, how would you square this polygon?

Aug 14, 2018 at 6:28 PM | Unregistered CommenterEntropic man

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