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Nov 11, 2018 at 6:20 PM | tomo

Thank you for the update.

The Green Blob are funded to accuse others through the Courts, holding them financially liable.

Nov 11, 2018 at 6:51 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

@ Nov 11, 2018 at 6:00 PM | Unregistered CommenterBrent Hargreaves

You comment: France had a mighty fleet which, had it fallen under German control, could have shifted the balance of naval power between Britain and the Germany/Italy Axis .....We asked the French navy to join us or at least to scuttle their fleet. Gave 'em an ultimatum. They refused. So we destroyed it.
Yes you are right about that - I have read about it - from memory it was critical for the British to destroy it in regard to the North African campaign. Of course it was the Vichy French who were by then under a pact with Germany that required them to defend France against the allies.So.......a vassal state???? It that what Jacob Rees-Mogg was minded of in regard the the EU and Brexit.
It happens you know - and Germany has got form as the say.

Nov 11, 2018 at 6:37 PM | Unregistered Commenterdouglas

Nov 11, 2018 at 6:01 PM | tomo

When David Attenborough read his script for the BBC's docudrama on plastics polluting SE Asian water, how much of it was commercially exported from the UK, and dumped for profit?

I have watched people, families, children etc use a lot of calories to separate the "right" sort of plastic from the "wrong" sort, in the genuine belief they are saving Polar Bears.

It makes sense for the Eden Project to run a CHP (Combined Heat and Power) scheme, based on burning plastic. It would be the most solution offering the best benefit to the Environment.

Nov 11, 2018 at 6:34 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie


I think the EA deserve a bit of elbow room on the Somerset Levels - up to the point that they can show what's happening via their networks of sensors and also that the dredging program instituted since the last flooding episode has made a measurable difference.

The local workers are likely up for that - but the upper tiers still resent the removal of some of their incompetent cronies...

It will flood again - we're paying them to measure it - if they fail again - then there should be more firings.

Nov 11, 2018 at 6:20 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Nov 11, 2018 at 2:31 PM | tomo

I do not know the Somerset Levels .......
Is that a manmade drainage channel doing what is was designed to do, with capacity and flow maintained by dredging and clearance of accumulated aquatic growth, as has been traditional on the Somerset Levels for centuries?

Dimwit Environmentalists wreak havoc when they think they know best about traditional management of the countryside.

Nov 11, 2018 at 6:07 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie


that's been going on for some years - Swindon Council had a load of containers returned from Brazil some years ago with the "wrong sort of plastic" in them - obviously not up to speed with the "special payments" to Brazil's Environment Agency - IBAMA.

I am entirely cynical about the EA's position on waste - pity that the whistleblower site was shut down by the EA's lawyers/money.

Really - how does plastic waste "leak"?

The EA have a record of extremely ill judged prosecutions for waste crime which have cost tens of millions to pursue people who actually only had relatively pennies to show for their purported (in some cases) "crimes". The EA is well known to play favorites - cosying up to certain operators and attacking the competition... Retired police officers huh? - complete self regarding "we're tough" BS - there was a move that thankfully faded away to dress EA officials in police style uniforms with emphasis on checkerboard strips and greeny-yellow hiviz.

The EA's obstructive and often devious and partisan interference with recycling operations means that in far too many cases accumulations of waste can be attributed directly to their meddling enforcement antics. There are undoubtedly hooky recyclers - but I think it's entirely clear that the hookiness extends to the regulator in spades - they've jumped on small fry but swerved the big boys.

I follow the EA quite closely and their Twitterings and FB antics contain a fair amount of mendaciously pitched untruths and exaggerations - there's some honest stuff in some areas - but waste isn't one of them.

If organised crime is involved then the old maxim "when a market is regulated one of the first things to be bought and sold is the regulator" would I suspect apply in this case. The vagueness of the claims in the Guardian article is tiresomely typical PR tosh from the lard-arsed quangocrats / bureaucrats at Horizon House and Millbank Tower.

Nov 11, 2018 at 6:01 PM | Registered Commentertomo

Douglas, I once lived in Marseille and was harangued by a workmate about the Mers el Kebir incident which I had never heard of. I think he used the expression Albion Perfide.

Having looked into it my current understanding is this: France had a mighty fleet which, had it fallen under German control, could have shifted the balance of naval power between Britain and the Germany/Italy Axis and further jeapordised food supplies crossing the Atlantic which was already on a knife edge. We asked the French navy to join us or at least to scuttle their fleet. Gave 'em an ultimatum. They refused. So we destroyed it.

Maybe it's an oversimplification to paraphrase our demand as "come out and fight on the side of the good guys", and maybe it IS as simple as that.

Nov 11, 2018 at 6:00 PM | Unregistered CommenterBrent Hargreaves


Your thinking is exactly aligned with mine. Seeing all the High Commissioners at the Cenotaph I thought how great it would be to have a Commonwealth wide free trade area. I also fell national pride and sadness that our PM allows us to be pushed around by a bunch of EU bureaucrats. We need a Churchill we have got a Chamberlin.

Nov 11, 2018 at 5:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterRoss Lea

tomo, the bigger scam on recycling is reported in The Guardian, by The Guardian article you linked to:

"The plastics recycling industry is facing an investigation into suspected widespread abuse and fraud within the export system amid warnings the world is about to close the door on UK packaging waste, the Guardian has learned.

The Environment Agency (EA) has set up a team of investigators, including three retired police officers, in an attempt to deal with complaints that ★ organised criminals and firms ★ are abusing the system.

Six UK exporters of plastic waste have had their licences suspended or cancelled in the last three months, according to EA data. One firm has had 57 containers of plastic waste stopped at UK ports in the last three years due to concerns over contamination of waste.

Allegations that the agency is understood to be investigating include:

Exporters are falsely claiming for tens of thousands of tonnes of plastic waste which might not exist

UK plastic waste is not being recycled and is being left to leak into rivers and oceans

Illegal shipments of plastic waste are being routed to the Far East via the Netherlands

UK firms with serial offences of shipping contaminated waste are being allowed to continue exporting."

★These "organised criminals and firms". Should that actually be "firms of organised criminals" , all ripping off UK Consumers and taxpayers whilst disguised beneath Green Blob umbrellas?

Nov 11, 2018 at 5:17 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

@ Nov 11, 2018 at 1:39 PM | Unregistered CommenterUibhist a Tuath

You observe After Oran, Mers el Kebir, Diego Saurez and Suez* of recent times and various other things in the past one has to say the sobriquet isn't totally undeserved.
Point Taken But of course that can be applied to any nation at any time when it suits. None the less it seems that the French (even possibly for good reason) are wont to apply it to Grande Brietagne.

Nov 11, 2018 at 4:00 PM | Unregistered CommenterDouglas

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