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Ross Lea
It makes (as mentioned in the article) some water trucks on paved roads look very mild indeed. I have a suspicion that some "rare bogworts" probably disappeared into the spoil from the excavations too....
“The Environmental Liabilities Directive and the Water Framework Directive have been repeatedly breached in Scotland in the race to erect giant wind turbines and fulfil the SNP’s obsession with turning Scotland into the ‘Saudi Arabia of renewables’.“Now we have direct evidence that this has led to serious contamination of groundwater in the vicinity of industrial wind farms, causing consequent dangerous pollution to our drinking water.
“It is ironic that the same people who vigorously oppose fracking because they claim it will cause water pollution, enthusiastically support wind farms which demonstrably do cause water pollution, as well as defacing our landscape.
“I would urge the European Commission to take immediate action against the Scottish Government for allowing these serial breaches of EU directives to continue unchallenged.”
Now then.... if that'd have been Cuadrilla or iGas....... Interesting that SEPA, Scotish Water and LAs are in the frame....
tomo
This is very worrying and ironic considering the false propaganda about the effects of fracking on water supply.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/07/18/new-evidence-wind-farms-contaminating-water-supply-in-scotland/
Your Grace, would you consider following this one up on your main blog page ?
Ross Lea
Yep we know, but greens don't that you can't have intermittents without having a fossil fuel running in tandem.
- Hey Skea is a confused expert. Note how he says some renewables/intermittents are approaching break even with fossil fuels "like wind", then later says wind HAS just proved cheaper than nuclear at the auction by 1p.
.. He's forgetting he shouldn't be asking for a subsidy if they are already competitive.
- It adds 120quid to energy bills ? "em I'm don't have the figures with me , but I think it's lower than that"
..WTF, you are the expert why didn't you equip yourself with the figs bB4 the interview ?
stewgreen
stewgreen
That should be Oil and Gas Companies because what replaces coal as reliable lowest carbon fossil fuel to generate electricity? In this case the Turkeys aren't voting for Christmas in the accepted meaning of the saying, although they are voting Christmas.
SandyS
Windfarms are effective for polluting water supplies: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/07/18/new-evidence-wind-farms-contaminating-water-supply-in-scotland/.
How unlike fracking. And fracking also differs in being able to provide reliable and economic energy supplies with minimal visual disruption of the landscape.
John Shade
So Prof Skea says Carbon pricing is the way to go (DO NOT call it a Carbon Tax).
- So @Johanna what do you think Australians will think if a new Carbon Tax Pricing system is introduced ?
- I like it better than the green subsidy mess, but isn't the problem carbon industry will just move to places where there is no tax ? ..... and we'll end up buying our plastics and high energy products from Russia, even if China will play ?
.. I also have a suspicion that the Climate cost of CO2 will turn out to be lower than the profit that governments get from exploiting oil. Cos actually we do of course already have carbon taxes , since all hydrocarbons are routinely taxed.
I note the Reuter's headlines :
June 1 : Europe's top oil firms jointly call for carbon pricing
June 2 : Global CO2 pricing seen unlikely to be big part of Paris climate deal
stewgreen
stewgreen
I have bothered checking the Irish grid on a regular basis. very small demand and the interconnector to the UK is quite a high percentage of that demand at 0.25 GW. Currently demand is about 3GW and wind is producing about 1GW. So the interconnector can supply over 10% if required.
For those interested
SandyS
Skea said that oil companies are in favour of carbon pricing
..This maybe the govs trick ..Getting rid of green subsidies and then directly taxing carbon MORE.
..I always say energy companies love rather than fear high prices cos that means bigger $ profits on the same percentage margin.. Sales don't usually fall much if price goes up.
stewgreen
- 7:16 Jim Skea was on BBCR4 Today prog Autopplay link .."investers in green energy losing confidence"
..ooh proper questions from BBC Journalist ..about how can green susbsidies supposed be sustainable
- excuse is : oil companies should be taxed more for carbon
- claim : "last analysis wind is a bit cheaper than nuclear"
- A proper question "even though wind is intermittant ?"
- 'Well Ireland does it right it gets 25% from wind and has no problem balancing the network'
"0715 Some of the UK's leading energy experts are expressing dismay at government changes to energy policy. They have criticised decisions to stop subsidising onshore wind power and large scale solar as these are the cheapest sources of clean energy. Professor Jim Skea is professor of sustainable energy at Imperial College London."
BTW This Tory gov is so nasty racist and sexist that they have a someone called Lady Hater
..........................................oh hang on Lady Hayter is a Labour Co-operative member
stewgreen
tomo/Ross Lea/John Shade
It's interesting that environmentalists kick up a fuss when land owners create tracks for hunting, shooting and fishing or other reasons to gain access to remoter parts of their estates and raise not a peep about tracks, concrete and water pollution related to wind mills.