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@It doesn't add up...
the execrable Deben is either projecting or getting the legal blows in first - or mebbe both. The legal profession by and large preferring fees to actual truth and justice will no doubt hoover up any crumbs of public monies sprinkled by Deben and his motley crew.
The numpty Broon and his pointless gopher Miliband Minor have a lot to answer for....
The Twitter backslapping between Jeremy Leggett and Deben is simply nauseating.

I wonder if climate frauds could also be prosecuted.

Models (spit) have supposedly shown that natural climate change at regular intervals have allowed man to move out of Africa, far sooner than was thought and on multple occassions. 106,000–94,000, 89,000–73,000, 59,000–47,000 and 45,000–29,000. If you continue the series you get 21.5 to 5.5 thousand years ago and 200 years ago to 16500 years in the future.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3798411/Climate-change-drove-early-humans-leave-Africa-four-waves-beginning-100-000-years-ago.html
Not that I'm giving any of this credence, it just shows that there's a lot of stuff to discover and interpret.

tomo & stewgreen, time to start blaming Guardian journanalists for every death that could have been saved, if so much money had not been wasted on climate science and the publication of associated silly scare stories.

@Tomo that is staggering news re PS particulates
You say their was a suspect mad alarmist article in the Guardian that fitted the narrative.
And then the BBC picked it up.
... Well I never ..no one could have predicted that !

@AK @Pcar Discussion about Nuclear Grade Graphite begins by saying that in the nuclear accident the graphite didn't actually burn it lumineced

@Pcar I meant is it worth me posting links to events in Surrey ?
.. I can't go myself cos I am in the north..and can't afford to go down south cos it's too expensive.
but if no one else goes there then its not worth my time posting links

Proof that alternatives burn more fossil fuel per generated energy quantum
By Denis G. Rancourt, PhD
I only skimmed, it seems to say since price is proportional to energy used then Renewables cost more so must include more fossil fuels in their implementation. Yes we know they cost more that is why they NEED subsidies. FB discussion

tomo, "muesli belt kids" is one term for children suffering from a lack of health including malnutrition due to parental obsessions with healthy eating.

stewgreen and golf charlie -
GMG / BBC platforming these loopy greens with their anti-industrial OTT hairy-scary stuff has a drip, drip on the public. The commentary / statements from FoE and WWF is just bonkers - and funded in large part from our taxes dammit....
Roll on cold weather , a few unscheduled breakdowns and blocking high pressure systems this winter.