nervous @Bettsy is on R4 now 16:40pm talking about the claim that every day last year CO2 was above 400ppm
It's iconic...there is no going back for decades or forever
..not seen these levels since a few million years ago ..way before humans evolved
The Earth is now different and becoming more different that humans evolved.
when will it decline
At least decades , possibly longer depending
Istays in the atmosp for years t does not undergo chemical reactions which break it down ..only absorbed by plants and then dissolved in ocean water
takes a long time
(How much does it vary on month)
seasonal cycle and dep where measure it by 5ppm cos plants die off in the Autumn as leaves decay

Max is May.. min in Sept
(We've had a strong El Nino)
Yes ..... cos of the El Nino we got more Indonesian forest fires ** and a drier warmer tropics in general so less CO2 taken up

(What should we do ? )
Fundamentally moving away from all these things that put CO2 up, using fossil fuels , clearing forest
So grow crops burn as fuel and CCS

* Well man produces more Co2 every year
** As I said there weren't same Indonesian forest fires in 2016

@Messenger such price band tinkering by the authorities is asking for trouble
The rich people are smarter than the poor
So they pull tricks like install a granny flat with a separate meter so run the whole house on 2 low band meters.

Likewise a shop can run it's electricity of the meter of the flat upstairs etc

OK World Media Zombies are you ready to regurgitate WWF's PR sheet on world species decline ?
"Yes" says BBC : World wildlife 'falls by 58% in 40 years'
even Russian propaganda channel Sputnik can do better than that
"Population of Vertebrate Animals Fell 58%"
got that thick BBC ? VERTEBRATE not all animals

Even then the data has been cherry picked and manipulated/tortured
Hint It's the same old "Living Planet assessment" report they've been releasing for years .. that was bogus the first time
Last time they said 50%
"World wildlife populations halved in 40 years - report" - BBC News 30 Sep 2014

* BUT * BBC More or less explained WWF's magic maths last time !! (download the podcast very good) Oct 2014

another older one BBC More or less explained (direct link to audio)

There is also a handy BBC page webpage on the count of species NOT actually going extinct 2012

I never donate or support corrupt NGOs like WWF

@Tomo so ClientEarth are suing the German government ?
...I suppose it would be better use of CE's resources to tackle a country which produces a lot more CO2 than the uK does.

So far on the radio the couple offgrid admit its hard time compared to having washing machine and computer.

6:50am R4Today "Scientists think they have discovered why ice ages come on 40,000 year cycles, and how they became every 100,000 years
from Professor Carrie Lear - Cardiff University

"We already knew it was due to quite subtle changes in the way the Earth orbits the Sun
we think its due to changes in the way the oceans take up CO2
In the glacial times there was less CO2 in the atmos and that let the ice advance further, so response to changes in the orbits was different from previous times
(Pres :So the seas were taking up more CO2)
yes we call this a feedback mechanism
Something happened to make the oceans take in more Co2 in the cold intervals
Then the ice goes further south, so is a bit more robust to changes in seasons
... (Pres : Oh when is the next ice age)
Oh ah difficult to say cos we have put so much CO2 into the atmos to WAY above anything in the last millioin years
At current levels of CO2 we are not being growing the ice sheets ..we are melting the ice sheets (thats not certain)
we'ere tipping the Earth into another climate state"
Science Daily Oct 26

Paper : Breathing more deeply: Deep ocean carbon storage during the mid-Pleistocene climate transition 28 Sept 2016
Caroline H. Lear1, Katharina Billups2, Rosalind E.M. Rickaby3, Liselotte Diester-Haass4, Elaine M. Mawbey1 and Sindia M. Sosdian