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tomo, I support taxpayers divesting from Climate Science and associated anti-social activities, and wonder whether ASBOs can be served on organisations, not just individuals.
golf charlie
The sanctimonious liars & berks at FoE start a campaign against taxpayer funding of grouse moors.
Ah... turkey and Xmas come to mind
Anybody know a good collection of how much EU and UK taxpayer money the various FoE operating divisions have trousered?
tomo
@tomo,
Thanks for that.
imho the final paragraph is most damaging to Hellary:
“So, yes – Donald Trump is someone I could very easily see winning the support of the people. And I don’t think he would do that with his flammable rhetoric and negotiation skills – which are both things he’s known for – but with common sense and respect for his fellow countrymen. But, most of all – I think his relationship with the opposite sex would bring him the most political points. I think he respects women and treats them as equals and I also think that would bring him a significant lead over anyone unlucky enough to be running against him,” Hillary Clinton concluded in her 2013 speech.
I'm not holding my breath waiting to see this on BBC, Guardian, CNN and the rest of the Lugenpresse. I expect them to ignore this.
Pcar
Pcar
I've started a greening thread and transferred my 10.45 post.
Entropic man
Pcar
Notice that the part of Golkany's paper I criticised had nothing to do with Zhu et al.
I've been looking at Zhu et al and have noticed a couple of points.
Firstly, my suggestion that the net effect of extra CO2 in arid/ semi-arid areas is negative. Look at the maps in Figure 1.
The most well defined arid area, Australia, shows pale green or yellow in all maps and definitely yellow in GLAS. Leaf area has reduced. I think Matt Ridley is mistaken.
Now look at Figure 1d, the trend probability distributions. The modes, the maximum probability values, are what I am looking at.
Both GIMMS and GLOBEMAP show no trend at all. AVG shows a trend of 0.002. That is an increase of 20cm^2/m^2/year, two postage stamps.
Since a typical crop will have a leaf area around 10,000 sq.cm, that is an annual increase of 0.2%,
Only GLAS shows significant change, a trend of 0.025. This is an increase of 250sq.cm, half a sheet of A4 paper, and an annual increase of 2.5%.
With two out of four sensors showing no trend and only one showing a significant change, Zhu et al is very weak evidence of greening. Goldany and Ridley are making a propoganda mountain out of a greening molehill.
Entropic man
@stewgreen, Oct 27, 2016 at 8:33 PM
Re: WWF vetebrates reduction
As this was aired today to coincide with WWF release, save the thick useless birds on Gough Island will be repeated ad infinitum.
BBC From Our Own Correspondent - Linguistic confusion and mass killers
Most birds are very defensive of their nests and children and attack predators much larger than themselves.
imho these birds are stupid. If after 100 years of mice eating their eggs and chicks they have not learned to defend their territory & children then extinction is justified. It's evolution.
Pcar
@Pcar if you are still talking about Greening you could either put the posts in a new thread or use the Matt Ridley debate thread if that was the main topic ..
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I've got another titbit ..
BBC bias : I see newswatch actually keep a whole set of transripts in their PDF studies of BBC bias
Their archive is here
I'm sure they'd have a job for Alex Cull
upto Oct 11th they'd been studying Brexit bias Blog introduces the Brexit report also introduced in a in a david-keighley blogpost
stewgreen
@EM,
What about the Zhu et al paper?
Where is it wrong? What errors does it contain?
Critiquing papers based on Zhu's without critiquing their source is mendacious.
Pcar
Oct 27, 2016 at 10:43 PM | @tomo
No, that is too wow to be true ..you should always trace back to source ..like are they the actual words on the wikileaks file.
Your linked article ends with a link to article at http://therightists.com Oct 17 which has no source and no open comments
The earlier Breibart Article Oct 15 has similar words but without Trump mentions