Unthreaded
Meanwhile ......
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/04/30/20-years-later-the-hockey-stick-graph-behind-waves-of-climate-alarmism-is-still-in-dispute/
"The Canadians’ 2003 study showed the “hockey stick” curve “is primarily an artifact of poor data handling, obsolete data and incorrect calculation of principal components.” When the data was corrected it showed a warm period in the 15th century that exceeds the warmth of the 20th century.
McIntyre and McKitrick also published a study on Mann’s “hockey stick” graph in 2005.
However, Mann wrote that “dozens of groups of scientists” had validated his 1998 study. Mann specifically pointed to a 2006 U.S. National Academy of Sciences (NAS) report that “affirmed our findings in an exhaustive independent review published in June 2006.”
Even McIntyre said subsequent studies have “produced somewhat hockey-stick-ish temperature reconstructions,” but added, “none (NONE) of our specific criticisms of Mann’s methods, proxies, and false claims has been rebutted.” "

The publicity panic over the Thwaites Glacier does confirm that the publicity panic over Polar Bears is dead, because the Polar Bears are not dead.
Ice experts will be relieved that they can make mistakes in Antarctica without meeting hungry polar bears, but if they have been trusting Polar Bear experts to supply them with reliable information about Polar Bears, how can they be sure?

@Mark Hodgson, Apr 30, 2018 at 7:50 PM
"The UK's Natural Environment Research Council and the US National Science Foundation are going to deploy about 100 scientists to Thwaites on a series of expeditions.
...
Send money!
What are they going to achieve - nothing. If it's melting the "scientists" can do nothing but observe. Might as well go somewhere warm and watch a volcano
Waste of taxpayers money.

RUDD-Y hell…
imho the time is not yet right to remove her. Need to wait until March next year when "the deal" revealed.

20:53 BBC2 accidently bumps into super Climate Activist, polar bear pornographer
Prog about Nortthern Ireland coast
Port Ballantrae
..ah look here's Joyce Ferder Rankin..OK it was over in 2mins
... she used to work for BBC as a war reporter..blah blah
.. but after her husband died in 2010 she found a more serious war to report on 'The war on Climate Change'
..shots of Arctic, polar bears etc.

CFCs, Co2, AGW, CC, PM25, PM10, NOx, ICEs, FF - and now, I give you, the latest scare, Thwaites! (no, not the dumper-truck makers) A monster ice cube breaking away from Antarctica that's about to flood the globe (well, in a couple of hundred years if you read the small print - that the BBC hardly mention). They just have to keep up the scare.

"Thwaites Glacier: Biggest ever Antarctic field campaign":
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-43936372
"It is going to be one of the biggest projects ever undertaken in Antarctica.
UK and US scientists will lead a five-year effort to examine the stability of the mighty Thwaites Glacier.
This ice stream in the west of the continent is comparable in size to Britain. It is melting and is currently in rapid retreat, accounting for around 4% of global sea-level rise - an amount that has doubled since the mid-1990s.
Researchers want to know if Thwaites could collapse.
Were it to do so, its lost ice would push up the oceans by 80cm or more.
Some computer models have suggested such an outcome is inevitable if conditions continue as they are - albeit on a timescale of centuries. But these simulations need to be anchored in many more real-world observations, which will now be acquired thanks to the joint initiative announced on Monday."
"Thwaites is clearly on the verge of an irreversible retreat, but to be sure we need 10 years more data," he [Prof. David Vaughan] told BBC News."
"The UK's Natural Environment Research Council and the US National Science Foundation are going to deploy about 100 scientists to Thwaites on a series of expeditions.
The International Thwaites Glacier Collaboration (ITGC) is the two nations' biggest cooperative venture on the White Continent for more than 70 years - since the end of a mapping project on the Antarctic Peninsula in the late 1940s.
Grants for research totalling £20m have been awarded. Once the costs of transport and resupply to this remotest of regions is factored in, the total value of the ITGC will probably top £40m."
Send money!

@stewgreen, Apr 30, 2018 at 4:10 PM
Asda/Sainsbury ...BBC bleat on..but surely main issue is for British farmers/suppliers
How can you have a proper free market when just 2 bidders buy 60% of the stuff
DM had a fair bit on producers. imho CMA should block merger.

@Uibhist a Tuath, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:52 AM
There's always RadioSpares now RS-Components, always the first port of call for a whatsit to complete a project for me 30 years ago.I've just had half an hour of nostalgia browsing their on line catalogue, bringing back memories of going through their paper catalogue
I have an RS account :)
I too loved the paper catalogues. Would spend hours reading new Maplin one every year. First for me was1979/80 iirc.
I gave up on Maplin ~2000 whey they changed into a re-incarnation of Tandy tat-bazaar. Copying a failed business struck me as rather stupid.
Edit: good grief: https://www.tandyonline.com/

The left’s term ‘Gammon’ and what it says about them
...reflects the readiness of the modern left to condemn, insult and ridicule instead of debate, and says more about their own gullibility than anyone else’s.
"left condemn, insult and ridicule" and divert