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The Energy and Climate Change Committee will hold a one-off oral evidence session on the UN climate change negotiations in Cancun on Wednesday 15 December 2010 in the Thatcher room [updated], Portcullis House.
Who is giving evidence?
At 3.15 pm the Committee will hear from:

Department of Energy and Climate Change:
• Rt Hon Chris Huhne MP, Secretary of State,
• Gregory Barker MP, Minister of State, and
• Mr Pete Betts, Director, International Climate Change.
Timings are approximate.

What will be discussed?
• The outcome of the Cancun conference and what this means for international efforts to tackle climate change;
• Key matters arising from the conference;
• The role of the UK and EU in the negotiations, and
• The prospects for further international action on climate change.

Dec 15, 2010 at 12:09 PM | Unregistered Commentermartyn

"Conservative MEP spends £9,000 on climate sceptic poster campaign

Roger Helmer uses taxpayers' money to promote his climate sceptic beliefs on giant billboards"

I don't know how I missed this!

Dec 15, 2010 at 9:58 AM | Unregistered CommenterFrosty

There is a remarkable section on a NASA website which talks a lot of sense about climate, relegating CO2 to a relatively minor role. A writer on American Thinker has drawn attention to it here:

"The Sun is the primary forcing of Earth's climate system. Sunlight warms our world. Sunlight drives atmospheric and oceanic circulation patterns. Sunlight powers the process of photosynthesis that plants need to grow. Sunlight causes convection which carries warmth and water vapor up into the sky where clouds form and bring rain. In short, the Sun drives almost every aspect of our world's climate system and makes possible life as we know it.

"... According to scientists' models of Earth's orbit and orientation toward the Sun indicate that our world should be just beginning to enter a new period of cooling -- perhaps the next ice age...

"Other important forcings of Earth's climate system include such "variables" as clouds, airborne particulate matter, and surface brightness. Each of these varying features of Earth's environment has the capacity to exceed the warming influence of greenhouse gases and cause our world to cool. "

Dec 15, 2010 at 8:46 AM | Unregistered CommenterJohn Shade

Have a look at Guardian website. Huhne scraps green bank (or words to that effect).

Dec 14, 2010 at 9:12 PM | Unregistered Commentermunroad


Telling a Nottingham jury that coal should be left in the ground. Not a good move.

Dec 14, 2010 at 8:57 PM | Unregistered CommenterDreadnought

Grumpy Olde

This was the best bit from the Lords:

Lord Marland (who else); answering the Bishop of Chester....
"I thank the Church of England for the example that it has set through step change in driving the church towards nil carbon emissions in the near future. Again, that is leading by example."

NIL carbon (dioxide) emissions- stop breathing immediately, your grace (of Chester)

Dec 14, 2010 at 7:49 PM | Unregistered CommenterMessenger

New Electric Car Subsidies.

Looks like TATA is getting a slice. How nice!

Dec 14, 2010 at 5:18 PM | Unregistered CommenterRoss H

A loss for Hansen:

The court didn't believe him, perhaps?

Dec 14, 2010 at 4:13 PM | Unregistered Commentersteveta_uk

Dear Bish, Have you seen this?

Read it and weep.

Dec 14, 2010 at 2:38 PM | Unregistered CommenterGrumpy Olde

Just posted this on Monbiot's CIF thread.

I think it's self explanatory!


14 December 2010 1:27PM

Read this carefully if you're interested in CIF moderation policy - and screensave it 'cos it probably won't be here for long!

This morning, I posted the item below,pointing out that a lot of multiple ID "astroturfing" was caused by the CIF mods' draconian censorship of non-approved opinions.

A couple of hours later, I logged on again to make a further point about the UK's only major organised astroturfing site - the hard left Medialens.

Guess what (I'm sure you have).

"Comment privileges for this account have been suspended"

That's it.

Greendodo flies no more.

It's gone to join the 'eavenly choir.

It's an ex-dodo

It's joined the choir invisible.

.........that's why I'm now going to be "Norwegiangreen"

For a few minutes anyway.

Thank you CIF moderators for helping me to make my point so eloquently.

You really couldn't make it up.

CIF = Comment Is Futile


14 December 2010 10:01AM

I think I might be an "astroturfer",

- or, at least, a "sock puppet" - I'm not quite sure which.

A couple of years ago I discovered CIF and, being a bit of a small "c" conservative, was a bit depressed by the narrow, monolithic, left-of-centre worldview expressed.

So I signed up, with my sole email address, got myself a username, and waded in - mainly on AGW topics.

All went well for a couple of weeks, until I disagreed with one of the prominent AGW enthusiasts on a detailed point about missing heat in the upper atmosphere. He was doctrinaire, supercilious and quite rude - so I was polite but sarcastic in reply. My posts suddenly disappeared.

Late, on another thread after a similar exchange and a few disappeared posts, I was told my posts were being "pre-moderated" - which meant they seldom saw the light of day.

On one occasion, with another identity, I was told my "posting privileges" had been withdrawn for unexplained reasons.

Well, to cut a long story short, I've now worked my way through about seven email addresses and usernames so I must be well into "sock-puppet" territory.

But here's the thing - the numerous, evangelical and, quite often abusive AGW cheerleaders on CIF have never needed to change their identities.

The likes of "Onthefence", "Nelthon" and many others frequently resort to insult and abuse, and they get the odd post removed, but they're still allowed to post for year after year whereas, as far as I can see there are no long term "denialist" posters.

So, I think what we see on CIF is a lot of "defensive sock-puppetry" resulting directly from the mods prejudice and bias.

The only organised astroturfing I've ever see being organised is on hard left media monitoring sites like Medialens - where mass "mail-ins" are exhorted on a daily basis.

Dec 14, 2010 at 1:32 PM | Unregistered CommenterNorwegiangreen

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