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I don't see why you guys are putting effort into trying to convert @GC; there is no point on dwelling
Over time more facts will all come out.
I have no wish to see him get angrier and angrier
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Anyone else can just see the BBBC thread on the topic
particularly interesting is the Ayaan Hirsi Ali tweet recommending Douglas Murray's article on the topic His good background info makes me think why do media/people never ask/explain why TR left the EDL ?
stewgreen
@GC, Jun 2, 2018 at 11:22 PM
With your experience of Youth Courts, are they always subject to Reporting Restrictions, with Reporters being excluded?
Rarely. Anyone can observe, but can be [majority] denied if it may hinder discussion.
I've argued for & against lock-up; for and against removal/return....
Juddgement is based on "what you believe at time". If new evidence revealed later, re-consider with open mind and reversal is not weakness.
I've argued against SW removal of child, other two wanted to be supine.
Eventual verdict was against SW.
After:
both lawyers said I was correct, SW wrong.
both supine said I was correct, but they were "scared" to disagree with SW and thanked me for leading.
Pcar
Pcar, ref Jun 2, 2018 at 11:22 PM | golf charlie
forgot to mention the fact that I was the only Prosecution Witness called, and I did not actually witness the crime being committed as I was more then 10 miles away. This was set out in my Police Statements, and these were accepted, unchalleged, by the Prosecution, Defence and the Court.
golf charlie
Defeats all arguments that Tommy was not targetted. Inciting BOP and contempt of court rampant and more blatant than TR's careful coverage.
Jun 2, 2018 at 10:15 PM | Pcar
Who claimed he wasn't targetted? He should have been imprisoned before, and for longer, as a serial offender, with a reckless attitude towards Witnesses, Defendants, and UK Law
He thought he was being clever by confirming the limit of Court Property with Officers outside the Court before broadcasting live. Which bits of "stupid" and "idiot" do not apply to him?
With your experience of Youth Courts, are they always subject to Reporting Restrictions, with Reporters being excluded?
I have given evidence for the Prosecution in a Youth Court, that required Magistrates with no prior knowledge of the Defendant travelling from outside the County. Everyone in the Court, including the Victim, was sworn to secrecy about everything that occurred or was said, apart from the Verdict. Is this normal?
Can I decide to break my verbal confidentiality agreement when I like, and without repercussions for me? The Defendant was found Guilty as charged. I remain satisfied with the integrity of my evidence, the Youth Court, the Guilty Verdict etc,
golf charlie
@GC
If Ezra has it wrong (not unheard of) - I'm confident he'd apologise and issue a correction - he has in the past. It's a feature of his work that does seem to set him apart from the majority of MSM commentators - he has done at least one mea culpa that shows him to be an honest person, if too trusting on occasion - which is quaint - but reassuring for somebody operating in contentious current affairs coverage.
You can challenge him directly and he does reply to quite a lot of communication.
I think that some in government want these things dealt with in provincial courts with the minimum of fuss on a case by case basis - the idea that there is any connection between the instances is to be downplayed at every turn. That somebody relatively prominent turned up was unwelcome and viewed as a threat and a challenge to the authorities ongoing efforts to downplay the incidents and yes.... cover up.
tomo
@GC,
Ezra: ffwd to 10m watch, ffwd to 15m watch, ffwd to 20m watch to end.
Pcar
@Mark Hodgson, Jun 2, 2018 at 8:42 AM
Substitute Germany for Britain and Judaism for Islam, and many of those policies wouldn't look out of place in a 1930s Nazi manifesto. At one stage Hitler had a mad idea of paying to send the Jews to Madagascar.Britain First seeks to clamp down on freedom of speech (read their policies again). Like all fascists, they only want people to be able to propagate policies they agree with. IMO there's not much difference between liberal fascists and real fascists in this regard.
Agreed. What you miss is Hitler's policies, like Britain First's, were left wing - nationalisation, state control etc. Hitler & his friend Stalin were both Left and Socialists. Hence the name of Hitler's party "Nationalist Socialist Party" whose largest supporter in UK was the SNP.
Hitler is depicted by the Left as Far-Right to hide their similarity of policies.
Pcar
@GC - as far as blowing up a trial is concerned the activities of Mohan Sing at Leeds (and elsewhere) are conveniently overlooked - no?
Jun 2, 2018 at 3:15 PM | tomo
I started to watch the Ezra video. He talked of Tommy Robinson as a victim etc. On the subject of Tommy Robinson, his background research suggests he did not confirm the reliability and integrity of his sources.
Has Mohan Sing got an extensive record of criminal behaviour and sticking two fingers up at the UK Law?
golf charlie
@tomo, Jun 2, 2018 at 1:14 PM
As to TR - why hasn't Mohan Sing been dragged off to prison .... see Ezra Levant HERE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0B6FWyiQWI
Thanks, very informative. Defeats all arguments that Tommy was not targetted. Inciting BOP and contempt of court rampant and more blatant than TR's careful coverage.
Pcar
@Rhoda Klapp, Jun 2, 2018 at 9:41 AM & Jun 2, 2018 at 12:30 PM
+1 Agree & well said. You saved me typing similar.