For God's sake Rhoda, you know full well I have never argued for any suppression. If there is rape gang activity shout it to the hills, persue the barstards as hard as you can, prosecute them to the limits of the law, lock them up for as long as the law allows , broadcast their names repeatedly and as widely as you can. But don't make them ethnic victims, don't give licence to genuine racists who concentrate upon their religion or ethnicity, potentially stirring up racial hatred against those who equally abhor these crimes but who happen to be south asian and/or muslims. Apart from those investigating this crime, is it important to anyone else that the perpetrators are muslim/south asian?

AK "The proportion of muslims or south asians involved in gang rapes is tiny." But the attitude that supports those crimes is far from rare. Anti white, anti women opinions are common and surveys have demonstrated it. Even 2nd generation Muslim women are cosidered too westernised. Forced marriages, FGM, rape in marriage, are protected from normal censure because people are scared of being called racist. I'm not afraid to say that my culture has got a lot of things right. OK, we're not perfect but I know which societies are worse. How will we ever improve standards if we can't select and stick to certain codes? If we can all have our own culture, I'm going to belong to one that hunts down the political correct mob and sticks their head on a pike.... such behaviour would be culturally consistant with my ancestry.

' The proportion of muslims or south asians involved in gang rapes is tiny.'

Well that's all right then. There's only a gang in every town where that community has a foothold. Whether it is race, religion or culture doesn't matter, what matters is the suppression of discussion of it and the inaction of the proper authorities over DECADES because of,..well, some say PC but I wonder about corruption.

There appears to be some confusion about what racism is

Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another, which often results in discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ETHNICITY.

An ethnic group, or an ethnicity, is a category of people who identify with each other based on similarities such as common ancestry, language, history, society, culture or nation.

Thus Judaism is an ethnic group regardless of race. Most jews in Israel are racially almost identical to Palestinian Arabs who therefore are semites or Abrahamic, yet prejudice against Jews oddly is considered both racist and antisemitic.
Thus when I claim that concentration upon the muslim character of rape gangs is racism, I believe I am justified. Iapogus mixes his arguments by switching his argument from the "evils" of some who practice Islam (no argument) to estimates of the proportion of gang rape activity attributed to south asians (also true). The proportion of muslims or south asians involved in gang rapes is tiny. To focus upon those individuual's ethnicity rather than upon their crimes is, in my books, racist.

It is valid to view Islam as it is practiced as a religion which sits uneasily with European/Christian culture. Obviously it isn't our business what it does in the Middle East. But here, it's a problem. If only because it is a prosetylizing religion which recognises no limits, and extends to legal and political areas which are secular here.

That is a problem which if one states it even in measured terms such as I have used will invoke suppression and calls of Islamophobia (true) and racism (not).

It is my opinion that the suppression of mentioning what we can all see is because of the Dreaded White Backlash, the realization by 'the mob' that what is occurring is to their disadvantage. If we don't mention it, like the man behind the curtain, we can all just carry on like Wile E. Coyote running over the cliff. Mixed movie metaphors a speciality.

@Aug 3, 2018 at 11:39 AM | Unregistered CommenterSupertrol

Sure it is Super - at it's apogee - no doubt!