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News from Friday
Sadiq suspends the congestion charge and Ulez from Monday
- and gives NHS staff free use of Boris bikes
stewgreen
@TinyCO2 we as engineers all believe in proper risk assessments
but the government doesn't look like it's doing that.
Italians were already saying last week, 'stop saying that Italy has a CoronaVirus crisis, cos actually its POCKETs in certain regions that have a problem, there isn't a crisis across the country"
To close the pubs with a few hours notice looks like a panic
It's exactly what the Greens do
'we don't have time for planning and risk assessments, we have to act now'
The publican of the real ale pub was pouring all the beer down the drain this morning. Something that should be unnecessary with proper planning
Meanwhile the marketplace has people with their takeaway Costa coffees
Other pubs have changed their Mother's Day meals to Mother's Day picnic baskets ... cos they have had time to make a plan.
We all know about Law of Unforseen Consequences.
stewgreen
Mar 21, 2020 at 11:15 AM AK
Yes, it is the same data, so no mention of anti-malarials taken or alcohol infused quinine tonic consumed. Unless someone knows better, it is the best data available from a locked down community.
The ethnicity and origins of those on board may be mixed and split between passengers, officers and crew, but their exposure to the virus whilst on board was probably homogenised
golf charlie
Yet another quotation GC that assumes that the majority of the Diamond Princess population were elderly, totally ignoring the crew who constituted more than 40% of the population. Admittedly many would have been out of sight on lowermost decks, but really...
AK
More info, and useful links at the bottom of the post:
http://joannenova.com.au/2020/03/crush-the-curve-italian-town-with-first-death-in-italy-stopped-the-virus/
"The first epicentre in Italy was Vò, a little town of 3,000. It was shut down, fully tested and twice and nine days apart. By testing, isolating, and tracking, they reduced the spread to almost nothing, and this is despite the extraordinary discovery that when the first death happened, already 3% of the town had the disease."
" At that point surely the Italian government should have immediately closed everything?"
" 70% asymptomatic or mild — good but ominous data"
"Italy’s death rate of known cases is shockingly high (which is why I gave up calculating it weeks ago). These numbers are similarish to the Chinese rates where roughly 80% were described as asymptomatic or mild. It probably just depends on the definition of “mild”:The best estimates we have are from "
"The Diamond Princess where everyone was tested and South Korea which has done more testing per capita than anywhere. Respectively, the mortality rates were 1% and 0.9%. Given that the Diamond Princess passengers were older the mortality rate in a normal demographic group might be as low as 0.5%."
golf charlie
https://time.com/5791466/ducks-locust-plague/
Chinese bred ducks are the secret weapon in the fight against locusts
Could crispy Peking Duck be a new sales success?
golf charlie
Mar 21, 2020 at 9:53 AM AK
Will they have the time and inclination to buy and eat food?
golf charlie
"The idea is to keep infections and thus critical cases to a level at which the hospitals can cope.
Mar 21, 2020 at 9:05 AM TinyCO2"
ie, slow the spread amongst the UK population.
London may be ahead on infections, it may be ahead on acquiring Herd Immunity.
golf charlie
Good to know that San Franciscans have got priorities right. All shops are closed except food stores, pharmacies, bicycle repair shops and cannabis dispensaries.
AK
UK new death tally is not yet in
Yesterday afternoon when I checked
Thu was 33
Wed 40
Tue 33 also
BTW AFAIK tonic water only has a trace dose of chloroquine
not a medicinal dose