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A sin of omission

The BBC was worried about primates this morning. Apparently loss of forest habitat means that our hairy cousins are facing the threat of extinction. Professor Jo Setchell is quoted in the piece as the woman with the answer though:

"...don't buy tropical timber, don't eat palm oil"

But burning palm oil to create energy seems to be fine with the good professor (and presumably the BBC's journalist, Victoria Gill) because it doesn't even warrant a mention.

Greens trashing the environment. Again.

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Alternatively I suggest we concentrate on applying Dorkenlogikica to the Eurovision Song Contest entry. To get more than "nul point" would be quite an achievement.

Jan 24, 2017 at 11:26 AM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Mary had a little Schmidt,
His beard was rather weird,
And every time he said hottest yet,
It was not, as he had feared.

Jan 24, 2017 at 1:08 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Mary had a little Mann
His first name was Mick
Everyone called him street slang proper Sick
Because he faked a Hockey Stick
The unfortunate Medievil Warm Period He tried to hid with a trick
Basically all this he did because has a small d..k

Scientifically Academically speaking that is

Jan 24, 2017 at 1:33 PM | Unregistered CommenterJamspid

Mary had a little mann
'twas full of merry tricks,
sometimes he'd conjure up hockey sticks,
sometimes be upside down.

Jan 24, 2017 at 2:23 PM | Unregistered CommenterBeth Cooper

Mary had a little Jones
With data so refined
But when asked for a copy of it
His reply was not so kind.

Jan 24, 2017 at 4:18 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Mary had a little Lew,
Nothing big or very plush,
She handed him Mann's Hockey Stick,
And taught him how to flush.

Jan 24, 2017 at 5:54 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Mary had a little CRU,
Bereft of Chinese Data,
It tasted better than fried Rice,
Wanting more, a short time later.

Jan 25, 2017 at 2:03 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Mary had a little dream-team,
Mann/Lewandowsky, lots of fury,
data manlewi[pulating,
uncovered by a real-world jury.

Jan 25, 2017 at 2:08 AM | Unregistered CommenterBeth Cooper

"There is a pleasure in the pathless woods,
There is a rapture on the lonely shore,
There is society where none intrudes,
By the deep Sea, and music in its roar:
I love not Man the less, but Nature more,
From these our interviews, in which I steal
From all I may be, or have been before,
To mingle with the Universe, and feel
What I can ne'er express, yet cannot all conceal.

Roll on, thou deep and dark blue Ocean--roll!
Ten thousand fleets sweep over thee in vain;
Man marks the earth with ruin--his control
Stops with the shore;--upon the watery plain
The wrecks are all thy deed, nor doth remain
A shadow of man's ravage, save his own,
When for a moment, like a drop of rain,
He sinks into thy depths with bubbling groan,
Without a grave, unknelled, uncoffined, and unknown.

His steps are not upon thy paths,--thy fields
Are not a spoil for him,--thou dost arise
And shake him from thee; the vile strength he wields
For earth's destruction thou dost all despise,
Spurning him from thy bosom to the skies,
And send'st him, shivering in thy playful spray
And howling, to his gods, where haply lies
His petty hope in some near port or bay,
And dashest him again to earth: —there let him lay."

Jan 25, 2017 at 6:56 AM | Unregistered CommenterThe Dork of Cork

Sorry to disappoint the regular cast of Eastenders on this site but I have been doing my best Showell Styles impersonation by camping on Derrynane beech with a reworked Blacks tent of perhaps early 70s vintage.
Oh and God forbid drinking in a pub while using my mobile "wild camping " base.

Perhaps that violates your puritanical orcish programming but me do not care.

Jan 25, 2017 at 7:09 AM | Unregistered CommenterThe Dork of Cork

Hmmm..."me do not"

Dork, Dork, Dork of the Jungle, watch out for that treeeee!!

Jan 25, 2017 at 10:06 AM | Unregistered CommenterShindig

Shindig. What are you wittering on about? There are no jungles in Cork.
(Except perhaps in the mind).

Perhaps a better link might be with the Lone Ranger, after all that character believed -

That God put the firewood there, but that every man must gather and light it himself.

That a man should make the most of what equipment he has (only after the 9 o'clock watershed)

That sooner or later...somewhere...somehow...we must settle with the world and make payment for what we have taken.

That all things change but truth [in the form of Social Credit], and that truth alone, [goes] on forever.

All to be found in "The World according to Dork"

Jan 25, 2017 at 10:39 AM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Dork of the bog perhaps.
My favourite pastime is bog trotting so I guess I tick all the now culturally impoverished English prejudice boxes.
Besides the fun bit I broke up god awful decking for a young couple that cannot afford a house despite their obscene abundance in Ireland.
The wood is now cut and stacked to be used for next winter in their humble wood stove.
It's really quite satisfying to go all Tasmanian devil on a large consumerist artifact.

Jan 25, 2017 at 12:18 PM | Unregistered CommenterThe Dork of Cork

Two older Irish men try to inject some debate within a English audience.
God help up and save us but the younger Irish "Liberal" women come across as a bit slow.
In fact John Waters is much closer to a classic 19th Century liberal position rather then your typical liberal materialist of the post FDR dictatorship which has totally shattered Europe.

At 12.00 the Irishman talks comically about the typical Newsnight setup.
This new moral authority debate centers on child and so called sexual equality issues but almost exactly the same format is used in the Climate change debate.
In fact the striking observation is their structural sameness.
At 35.10 some more funny comments on the moral thought police.

Later a Englishman in the audience expresses some degree of bafflement.

It has occurred to me that the schism of thought is ironically because Christianity was the state religion of England but the unofficial if preferred religion of Ireland.
The acceptance of the new moral authority is thus somewhat easier for the English masses to absorb within their programming.
Irish acceptance is to some degree a consequence of the almost total replacement of the population by post communist youth drones who seem to be very easily indoctrinated within the new moral framework.

Jan 25, 2017 at 1:35 PM | Unregistered CommenterThe Dork of Cork

Dork, here's an idea.

1. Print off your comment.
2. Find a friend.
3. Read it to him.
4. Ask if it makes sense.

I realise that 2 might be a struggle, but do your best.

Jan 25, 2017 at 3:31 PM | Unregistered CommenterShindig

It does not make sense to you because you are most likely a brutalised British orc.
I will try to make this simple for you.

Why can a person make incorrect, unsound and unscientific statements without any substantive challenge from the fourth estate.

Because the person making that statement is part of the new church.
That church is now endorsed by the state as the new approved religion.

These are very simple and correct observations that require the minimum of historical knowledge.

Nothing very obtuse.
All societies have a visible or hidden priesthood.
It so happens the priesthood is hidden within the modern state yet they control the message, you therefore miss the most basic of observations and fail to ask the most basic of questions and assumptions.

Jan 25, 2017 at 4:18 PM | Unregistered CommenterThe Dork of Cork

'Brutalised British orc', eh?
Now, who was it some months ago proclaimed that name-calling was the sure-fire sign of a lost argument?

Jan 25, 2017 at 7:10 PM | Unregistered CommenterShindig

Good point.
The best response to you is silence.
You either do not understand how society works or is working to prevent a understanding of the basic operating principles of all post hunter gather societies.

Jan 25, 2017 at 11:50 PM | Unregistered CommenterThe Dork of Cork

'Silence'? Really?

Thank the Lord - silence from Dork. Ten thousand wishes have at last been granted!!

Jan 26, 2017 at 7:23 AM | Unregistered CommenterShindig

Paul Simon...

Goodbye Dorkness, my old friend,
Never hear from you again.....

Jan 26, 2017 at 4:06 PM | Unregistered CommenterShindig

Mann, he hated Hubert Lamb,
Whose truth he had to silence,
So he made a fractured stick,
In defiance of science compliance.

Jan 26, 2017 at 5:10 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

May Hearts be Trumps;
Some suits to grumble.
Climate church, in the dumps;
Busted Mann, from hill to tumble.

Jan 27, 2017 at 5:51 AM | Unregistered Commenterkim

Lemme tell ya', my pilgrim, hunting and gathering had its rough moments, too. And they didn't have to deal with chemically treated deck planking, either.

Jan 27, 2017 at 5:55 AM | Unregistered Commenterkim

Chemically treated deck planking,
The scourge of our age,
Pilgrim you are so right,
BBQs once needed no such stage

Jan 27, 2017 at 8:39 AM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

Foa a little light relief.
The ramblings of an Irish 'D' head who infests a certain Bishop's site in Scotland. If Sturgeon doesn't force a break from the UK this Swuawk might.

Jan 28, 2017 at 8:39 AM | Unregistered CommenterKleinefeldmaus

Goodness he's greener than I thought and so sorry to hear he has infested Scotland. He's not "Strictly" material is he?
How did you manage that final fade-out? I felt a mighty sense of overwhelming relief when that happened. We could surely use that high-tec over here.

Jan 28, 2017 at 9:09 AM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

The suburban deck planking craze of the Irish 00s had certain cultural and consumerist baggage.
A popular and trendy west Brit economist by the name of McWilliams wrote extensively on this strange outbreak and social disease

Unfortunately it requires very large amounts of wood preserver in the Irish climate.
Wood preserver is expensive stuff.
People now have little cashflow.
The wood rots after a decade.

Dorks are asked to deconstruct.
Dork obeys in exchange for a few pints and goodwill
Such is life in the free state dystopia.

Jan 28, 2017 at 2:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterThe Dork of Cork

Last year Irish Gdp (total prices)numbers were published.
A already large depreciation component within the GDP doubled in a single year.
Ireland now has the largest depreciation Gdp component as a % of total GDP in Europe.
However the breakdown of the depreciation components was kept secret from the public.
The usual mason economists were wheeled out claiming it was multinational operations revising their accounts for tax purposes but I suspect the subterfuge is more directly linked to the Irish conduit.
The entire Irish monopoly capitalist system has rotted from the inside out.
This strangely remains a state secret but is manifest when looking at various physical economic artifacts.
In particular the various objects of suburbia.

Irish young people have been denied access to abundant homes for 10 years now.
( part of the general policy to inflate prices above income)
Houses without heat for a decade tend to crumble in the damp Irish climate.
The costs of usury are feeding back into the owners accounts.......

Jan 28, 2017 at 2:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterThe Dork of Cork

Who'd a'thunk the Dork would have written about deck planking and the Irish condition?

I will now have nightmares of dozens of flaming BBQs crashing through their rotten decking, spreading havoc amongst the red-headed collenes, whilst the Dork sips his beer in his dystopian paradise.

Jan 28, 2017 at 2:41 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

It's not my paradise.
In mine the pub is full rather then empty.
A puritan I am not.
People were captured by American style materialism.
I am sad for them and my former country.
Everybody is flipping sad.
This entire banking jurisdiction reminds me of that village in Whiskey Galore before the ship hits the rocks.
Sad beyond words.
A great film but the happy ending was a fiction.
In post "Glorious revolution " British Isles the taxman always gets them.
Civilization has been in permanent decline on these islands for 500 ~years.
Some areas have benefited from the rape of others but now the scouring has no more to scour.

Jan 28, 2017 at 3:02 PM | Unregistered CommenterThe Dork of Cork

A very interesting and forgotten post great war Sci Fi piece.

Jan 28, 2017 at 3:31 PM | Unregistered CommenterThe Dork of Cork

DoC. You seem to be in a very dour mood today. Think instead of the joy you have inadvertently spread here, that must count for something. If I were in your vicinity I would pay for a line of glasses gently defrothing and adding to the human burden on our atmosphere.

Jan 28, 2017 at 4:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

It was the recent bivy on Derrynane beach I reckon.
It's great to hear the midnight sea breathing and all that but the place is no longer perfect.
Sure I could see Orion rising to the southeast and Cygnus to the North hanging over Dingle but it was that curious glow in the sky again.
A empty caravan park over the bay to the east is jammed full of thee most intrusive security lights ( from the sea it looks like a airport)
Orion was no longer the great hunter of legend.
A snarer of rabbits perhaps.

To think this place is advertised as a truly dark international site!!!
True advertising does not sell I guess.
"A somewhat darker site" logo does not draw the crowds.
The locals must by necessity engage in Blarney to obtain precious currency.
Such is the absurdity of marcantalism.
I remember much darker skies in the 80s but curiously despite the Irish depression of the time the pubs remained full.
Obviously the waste / rationing was somewhat less at the time but ominously growing year after bloody year.

Jan 28, 2017 at 5:28 PM | Unregistered CommenterThe Dork of Cork

Supertroll, you do realise that one of the biggest things ever to come out of Cork Harbour was the Titanic? It all ended in tears for Leonardo di Caprio, and didn't go down very well.

Jan 28, 2017 at 9:34 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

Gwendolyn. The biggest thing to come out of Cork Harbour is the tide.

Jan 29, 2017 at 7:27 AM | Unregistered CommenterSupertroll

My observation is correct.
Our economic and social construct is based on waste ( lighting up the sky)& rationing (empty pub, waste and rationing, waste & rationing.
And out into infinity we go....

A pre capitalist peasant economy operates on the no waste principle.
Waste is defined on peasant terms as anything which can not give you sustenance.
Much of the world's Gdp goes on maintaining those added consumerist extras.
You cannot drink wood preserver....
Well maybe just the once...

Jan 29, 2017 at 11:24 AM | Unregistered CommenterThe Dork of Cork

Jan 29, 2017 at 11:31 AM | Unregistered CommenterThe Dork of Cork

In response to Gwndolyn's challence - this partilular Gawk contemplates his version of 'draining the wamp'

Jan 29, 2017 at 11:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterKleinefeldmaus

La bonne petite souris, wamps don't like to be drained, vvamps less so

Jan 30, 2017 at 1:28 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charlie

It's a slow process using a beer mug - especially so with that journey through the gut - but hell in Ireland there's Irish time so .....ample

Jan 30, 2017 at 1:37 AM | Unregistered CommenterKleinefeldmaus

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