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Bishop Hill
Bishop Hill Jumping the climate shark
Sep 29, 2015 Climate: Oceans Climate: carbon budget 
Yes folks, we may have reached peak climate drivel, with the news that we are being saved from impending climate disaster by the heroic actions of a hardy bunch of...sharks.
Turtle-eating sharks help slow global warming, scientist says
Sharks help to reduce global warming by eating sea turtles and other creatures that consume carbon-rich sea grasses, an Australian scientist said on Tuesday.
Sometimes there are no words adequate to describe the silliness of the climate change researcher.
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Is this an explicit or emergent property of the climate models?
"Marine ecologist Peter Macreadie of Deakin University in Melbourne examined the effect on sea grasses in Shark Bay, Western Australia!"
I do hope the poor loon is having a quiet rest in a darkened room, I think the strain of all that creative writing has distressed him to the point of stupidity!
Competition for the squirrels:
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/arctic-squirrels-blamed-for-climate-change-damage-9931647.html
"Sometimes there are no words adequate to describe the silliness of the climate change researcher."
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The actual study was just published in Nature Climate Change: “Predators help protect carbon stocks in blue carbon ecosystems”.
The following is off-topic and I apologise to our host for that. My excuse is that I want to bring it to the widest possible attention and that it does involve the AGW scam.
This morning I received a text message from Tesco Mobile informing me that it is supporting something called 'globalsgoals.com "to end poverty, inequality & climate change.. Will you be a global citizen and #telleveryone?"
The answer, of course, is no I bloody well won't. I will cancel my contract at the first available opportunity and publicise this as widely as possible so that fellow sceptics and UN-haters can do likewise.
A major public company getting involved in support of left wing politics is wrong on so many levels. Someone needs to get fired for this and as many Tesco customers as possible need to know what they are being roped into, so as to hasten that firing.
There's still two months until Paris. Peak drivel is probably not yet here.
I thought the sea turtles ate jellyfish?
Maybe it's the sharks eating seaweed? Or perhaps the rays and skates.
Then there are millions of people who love seaweed, dried or not. I favor dulse, laver and that algae based nori sheets for wrapping rice, veggies, marinated and raw fish or meats.
And there was I thinking that sharks were endangered by climate change.
But no, climate "psience" tells me that they are "empowered" and can adapt.
Death to the evil, climate-changing Turtles!
Fins ain't what they used to be......:o)
Climate scientists could be more usefule if they were used to feed sharks, though marine zoologists would recoil at encouraging cannabalism amongst vicious predators.
Actually, this pales in comparison to measuring the lengths of bee tongues as a sign of global warming. You simply can't make this up:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/09/25/claim-global-warming-is-shortening-the-tongues-of-bumble-bees/
I am afraid this warrants some strong language -.-
What does the Australian Scientist think happens to 'shark shit' the turtle sure aint going to eat it?
the aging of population helps too , white hairs increase albedo...
Would silver amongst long black do?
I am reminded of a quote that I think has been attributed to Isaac Held which when paraphrased is: Just because a study is published in Nature Climate Change doesn't mean it's necessarily wrong.
But hang on, this study from 2010 says that global warming will also devastate the sea turtles:
http://news.discovery.com/animals/endangered-species/sea-turtles-global-warming.htm
So turtles eat the sea grasses and increase global warming, but then sharks eat the turtles and help to reduce global warming; I got that bit. But science also says that global warming kills off the turtles, which helps the sea grasses and so then in turn reduces global warming, and the sharks then won't be able to eat the turtles, which means that there will be fewer sharks, so there will then be more turtles again eating the sea grasses, which means that global warming will increase. But then as global warming increases, it will kill off the turtles again, which will help the sea grasses, which will reduce global warming again, which will mean more turtles for the sharks to eat, but then more turtles means less sea grass again, which means global warming will go up again, which means fewer turtles. But then... (cont. p94)
""Sometimes there are no words adequate to describe the silliness of the climate change researcher."" --alan bates
What Lysenko spawned.
My brains melt. So I can eat turtle soup and fight global warming?
That much is true.
The question though only remains about the necessity.
As Hume said, "Just because the Sun has a good record of rising each morning, don't mean it will tomorrow, och aye the noo,". (I paraphrase).
But it does get good odds.
I share your contempt for Nature Climate Change.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark
"The phrase is based on a scene from a fifth-season episode of the sitcom Happy Days when the character Fonzie jumps over a shark while on water-skis."
So why is there a downer on plastic bags and toy balloons, justified in part by the supposed fact, which I was assured was shown on the BBC, that they get into the sea and the turtles mistake them for jellyfish and they choke them?
Come to that I've never seen the point of bio/photo degradable plastic bags. All that does is make sure that they are turned into the demon gas even quicker. Also they are a mighty nuisance; you put a few nuts and bolts into one to keep them together and six months later you go to pick it up and you have all these feathery flakes to hoover up with even more supposed damage to the planet in the juice needed to run the hoover.
Just love this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=BB0aFPXr4n4
Deakin "University" is a former technical college which is ranked near the bottom of Australian universities. It regularly spews out junk "research" of all stripes.
There has been a fair bit of merriment on Oz websites about this nonsense.
Caligula Jones,
I listened to the "story" about bee tongues, including an interview one of the "researchers" on the BBC channel via the satellite radio service in my vehicle,
I was in a minor traffic jam here in Calgary at the time and I think the other drivers around me must have thought I was total Loon, I was laughing my head off.
johanna 11:19, does Deakin now rank even nearer the bottom, and what is stopping it falling further?
It's a crowded field down there, Charlie. For example, Charles Sturt "University," another upgraded tech college, has the loathsome Clive Hamilton as, of all things, a Professor of Public Ethics. Some years ago, Clive told us that in order to get appropriate action on the impending climate catastrophe, the "suspension of democracy" might be required.
I don't know how the rebadging of tech colleges and the like to universities has gone in the UK, but here the results have been less than felicitous.
It is mindless drool like this bizarre demonstration of ignorance by a "cliamte scientist" that gives me a small hope that the entire AGW edifice will implode due to the vacuum that exists where serious ideas should instead reside.
Johanna I think you are being a little unfair on the newer universities after all there is a strong list of suspects associated with or recently with some of our "sandstone" and higher ranked establishments. To start with there is
David Karoly - University of Melbourne
Stephan Lewandowsky (sigh) - recently University of Western Australia
Will Stefan - Australian National University (check out the staff list in the climate change department, bigger than the IPCC)
Tim Flannery (another sigh and an oh dear) ex University of Adelaide
and who could forget
Chris "Ship of Fools" Turney - University of NSW.
There are more but you get my point
Alan:
I wasn't aware that Flannery had any connection with Adelaide University beyond a pro for a professorship when he became head of the SA Museum. As far as I know his BA was from Macquarie but that may not be right. He is now with the Uni of Melbourne as a Professor in the Institute of Sustainable Society and Silly Walks.
To the list of "people who never would be missed" Tom Wigley is a Professor at Adelaide University.
Years ago I described one of the new Universities as having 6 sheep and 1 student per acre. Judging by the output I overestimated the number of intelligent life forms.
It's truly amazing that BBC's poster-boy Sir David didn't get to this first. They must be killing themselves (metaphorically speaking).
Johanna, unfortunately in the UK, under Blair, British Universities were fabricated out of unwanted Bingo halls, and Degrees given away at the right price.
Qualifications in Feng Shui for Polishing Porcelain Downloading Hardware, now come free with a mop, bucket, and bottle of bleach.
@Uncle Badger Sep 29, 2015 at 12:55 PM
I receieved the same text from O2, as Tesco is an MVNO who use O2's network the text probably had nothing to do with Tesco.
@cosmic Sep 29, 2015 at 10:47 PM
I agree with that, same has happened to me and it is a PITA to remove the plastic flakes from clothes, furniture etc.
PS cosmic as in Marko (R800, MIT)?
@golf charlie Sep 30, 2015 at 11:01 AM
Actually that was his socialist predecessor John Major
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UK_universities_by_date_of_foundation#1992_universities
However, Blair then added even more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UK_universities_by_date_of_foundation#Second_wave_of_new_universities
Pcar thank you for the correction. Students can now go to university, to learn how to play with Lego and Meccano, at the end of their teenage years, and not before. I think it is due to Health and Safety legislation.
Graeme No3.
Flannery likes to spread himself around doesn't he, think there is a word for that. According to both the Wiki profile and the Climate Council bio Flannery was a Professor at the University of Adelaide, doesn't state when or for how long and of course we accept without question everthing the Clot Council says. They have Lesley Hughes (Macquarie) in addition to Will and Tim
I recall an earlier piece of "Shark research " from the University of NSW ( I think) which found that as Global,Warming heated oceans around Australia, the Sharks would become more aggressive! This also caused much hilarity on Tim Blair's blog along the lines that Great Whites are such gentle pets etc.
However my personal favourite remains The Grauniad's " Aliens may destroy Humanity to protect other civilisations, say scientists", Friday 19 August, 2011.