
Another one bites the dust


Following close on the resignations of key officials at DECC, the Prime Minister's climate change adviser Ben Moxham has decided to call it a day too.
Ben Moxham, senior policy adviser on energy and the environment at Number 10, has become the latest in a line of key energy experts to leave government.
Moxham is understood to have become frustrated that climate change has slid down the government's agenda.

The Telegraph's Emily Gosden reports that Moxham's replacement is to be Tara Singh, a PR person who used to work at Centrica and before that was a Conservative special adviser.

Joss Garman of Greenpeace tweets:
Guardian political chief @patrickwintour is reporting leading climate sceptic Peter Lilley is David Cameron's new energy adviser. #gp

Wintour's tweet is:
Shake up of no 10 climate change team. Peter Lilley, one of 5 Tory MPs to oppose climate change act, now overseeing energy, but not cc.

Press Association says Lilley has foreign affairs and not energy, according to Josh Garman.

Apparently Tara Singh is currently a spin doctor for Renewables UK.
Reader Comments (44)
Never heard of him. Is he a buddy of fast fingers Bob, ex-FoE, WWF, Greenpiss? I wonder what his salary was.
Clearly no loss, I strongly suspect.
From http://glte.xynteo.com/speaker/ben-moxham/
I hope there are plans to abolish the post, rather than replace him.
Another trougher from the Oxford PPE useless idiot factory. He won't be sorely missed.
Tom Nelson (http://tomnelson.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/don-miss-this-more-very-good-stuff-from.html) draws attention to a heartfelt and encouraging essay which is relevant here since it begins with the famous Mackay quote
and goes on to note many promising signs of the tide turning.
Whether this Moxham chap is recovering his senses, or has merely spotted that his bosses seem to be recovering theirs, he is nevertheless another one 'being released' to borrow a phrase from the Pointman essay linked to by Tom:
http://thepointman.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/some-thoughts-about-policy-for-the-aftermath-of-the-climate-wars/
I was aware of who Ben Moxham was, because it was his leaked letter to the prime minister in Q3 2011, with Gila Sacks, that led to the Telegraph calculating Environment policy reforms to add £300 to energy bills. That led to my posting my one and only e-petition that week, in September 2011: The impact of green policies on household energy bills. Happy days.
Thanks Derek for the sketch of the guy's previous career. Interesting that he began at Foreign Affairs:
It's not surprising for someone from this stable to be "frustrated that climate change has slid down the government's agenda". What's remarkable is how Walter Russell Mead, Henry Kissinger Senior Fellow at the CFR from 2003, proclaimed The Death of Global Warming in February 2010 and has become one of the world's most influential sceptics. Some back the right horses, some don't.
Probably got an offer from the petro-chemical business he did not feel he could refuse.....
No inclination to stand his corner and try and influence the Governments attitude to climate change?
( Actually, we none of us will ever know the real reasons for his departure, in all likelihood, but such is now my cynicism about ALL these sorts of people that I regard them all with general contempt. Sometimes I dislike how bitter and twisted I have become....but I hate the people who have made me so even more. As far as I am concerned the Climate Wars reached a "Take No Prisoners" stage a long time ago.)
( Actually, we none of us will ever know the real reasons for his departure, in all likelihood, but such is now my cynicism about ALL these sorts of people that I regard them all with general contempt. Sometimes I dislike how bitter and twisted I have become....but I hate the people who have made me so even more. As far as I am concerned the Climate Wars reached a "Take No Prisoners" stage a long time ago.)
May 10, 2013 at 11:29 AM | Unregistered CommenterJack Savage
That's me also, Jack. I have come to detest these people with an insatiable vengence. I don't like it but it is no more than they deserve.
Even now none of them has the guts to renounce their past errors publicly. They just want to move on to another trough in this great scam.
Derek:
You beat me to it! I just looked up that link myself. Riverstone Holdings is (ex BP) Lord Browne's outfit:
He joined Riverstone in 2007 and is co-head of Riverstone’s Renewable Energy Funds.
http://www.riverstonellc.com/TeamMember.aspx/3/JohnBrowne
Browne is also a member of Deutsche Bank European Advisory Board and of their Climate Change Advisory Board, along with Lord Oxburgh and John Schellnhuber from Potsdam. Pachauri was previously a member of that same board.
He likes to keep his options open, he is also a director at Cuadrilla.
So think about this...if you have to employ high costing policy advisors to advise you about your various policies does this not tell you that the problem is your policies are pointlessly conplex and convoluted?
If you have to employ hi cost proles to tell you what your policies say then perhaps the only sensible solution is to rip those policies up abd replace them with policies based on common sense?
Hahaha...I know...this will never happen as far too many people have far too much invested in our current bloated form of governorship!
Mailman
Stephen Richards:
But does it work? Does it persuade people? Are we going to need to persuade people in order for the worst effects of climatism to be reversed, while preserving democracy and freedom generally?
@John Shade
Thanks John for the Pointman link. I particularly liked his suggested new mantra "people first, planet second".
Back to what Stephen Richards and others have said about anger and how legitimate and effective it is. I admit I've been influenced by reading Iain Martin on supporters of UKIP three days ago:
Not doing "an entirely legitimate cause grave damage" seems a worthy sentiment in the climate area too. Moxham's departure, after a number of others, suggests we are winning much more than we could have hoped in May 2010. Best not to blow it?
Following Richard's links (11.:27), this is the guy who said
"Our policies would have a relatively small impact on household gas prices
Our policies would increase household electricity prices by 25% in 2015 and 30% in 2020 compared to what they would have been in the absence of policies".
Good riddance.
Yeah, Paul, only a small impact. What pedants we are.
Someone gave ZDB an open goal to shoot into. Even as his (and probably my) comment is zamboni'd let's realise that cannot be a smart thing to do.
This has been an interesting fight, a bit like the Battle of Britain as it has been dominated by 'The Few', those intellectually capable of dog-fights in a highly specialised arena. On the one hand we had Big energy and Big Capital, the new fascists, invading the World with their vast Armada of fake science.
On the other hand, we had the generally older scientists and engineers who had kept quiet until CG1 but then gradually came to see through the fraud. Hence for 2 years or so the onlookers, including the MSM became aware of the Gallant Few being attacked by the massed blog armies paid for by the new Establishments and in spite of the overwhelming onslaught, the honest group has struggled through.
What I perceive is Fallon acting to tell the agents of Big Energy and Big Capital who took over DECC to walk before being pushed. The other side of this has been intense activity in private as the sceptics have been questioned by representatives of the Establishment of which this government is more than usually part of.
"Moxham is understood to have become frustrated that climate change has slid down the government's agenda".
Maybe climate change positions no longer command pay like it used too. So where is he going to wreak havoc next?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8741032/Environment-policy-reforms-to-add-300-to-energy-bills.html
Maybe he was asked to leave!
Richard Varney, in a post at wuwt sums up the basic problem of wind with devastating clarity:
"On the same theme, there will be no future economy of scale. Consider how the IC revolutionisd electronics whereby dozens, then hundreds, then thousands, then millions of transistors could be incorporated into ever increasing modules. This sort of economy of scale is not available for wind. Each wind turbine has to be a seperate structure, seperately errected, occupying its own seperate space, far away from its neighbour and seperately coupled up. There is no radical economy of scale in the pipeline.
Hence what we have now is largely what we will get. Never significantly more efficient, never significantly cheaper to install, never significantly occupying less land space. The cost of energy will never be significantly cheaper from these units. So subsidies for a fledgling industry are not well spent since it will never be significantly improved and thus can never be weaned off the subsidies. Without subsidies, windfarms are simply uneconomic."
I would suggest that this is the reality driving so many out of the green energy promotion business: there is an inevitable ship wreck ahead, and the wise rats are leaving now.
@lurker If you're going to use the same word four times in one sentence spell it right cos it's obviously not a typo.
@lurker So sorry, I see it's Richard Varney who can't spell.
Lilley in charge of Energy? Has Cameron gone sane? UKIP really scared him, didn't they?
I'm with Jack!
"But does it work? Does it persuade people?" as Richard Drake asks. Well, yes, Richard. I hate the people who cannot and will not be persuaded - because they have a vested interest in not being so - and ditto, trolls; I don't hate the people who are open-minded.
My earlier posting seems to have vanished into hyperspace. I wrote:
Moxham is understood to have become frustrated that climate change has slid down the government's agenda."
S.L.B.T.M.
I think more likely is that he glimpsed something coming down the turnpike that did not look good to him.
Now we read:
So we now know what was the nightmare that Moxham had glimpsed.
Congrats to Lilley. He has come a long way since I saw him on TV, years ago, blaming the UK's economic problems on unmarried teenage mothers.
So a couple of weeks ago Lilley became part of the PM's new policy advice group and now he's a No 10 energy adviser. Not a minister, so presumably he can stay on the DECC select committee? Certainly hope so. Will he still be able to write articles like this week's Spectator piece? Hope so.
Hope this isn't a Machiavellian move to neutralise him, but Lilley should be too experienced to be taken in by any manoeuvre like that.
I wasn't a great fan of Peter Lilley the first time he was in government, but energy policy needs someone who can see past the modern obsession with CO2 so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Maybe we can actually try and prodice some shale gas now and get a more reliable estimate fo the scale of the resources in the UK.
Richard Drake,
Much of Nigel Lawson's performance in his earlier role makes my point. A deliberately stoked housing boom and excessive enthusiasm for the ERM being apparent major issues. However, he has gained a great deal of wisdom in his later years - clearly being 60 years from his PPE days is beneficial to his intellect.
And now he's not again.
SayNo: your mentioning the ERM reminds me of the comments of Mark Reckless at the end of the Commons tributes to Thatcher a month ago. I'll quote in full because it seems so important:
It is easy as one gets older to write off the young, as Lord Bell seemed to do, and I thought it was a brilliant stroke for a younger MP to retort in this way and give such a valuable historical perspective into the bargain.
I just wouldn't hang such important stuff on something as flimsy as an Oxford PPE. :)
They will have effectively silenced Peter Lilley if they've got him in the tent pissing out, but we'll see.
I see Ben Moxham is another Oxford PPE graduate.
What is it about this course that;
a) almost always leads to a government position?
b) renders the holder completely lacking in common science?
c) arrogant beyond belief?
He wishes to spend more time in the environment?
Peter Lilley in the last month hasn't sounded to me like a man gagged or indeed able to be gagged. They know what they're getting. They can't say he's been given charge of energy and climate change policy - nor would I expect that - but they have signalled something significant. Not just Moxham but a whole raft of things are on the way out. But what will they do - can they do - about making the new energy bill in any way rational? A backlog of baloney I'm tempted to call it, as I watch the tweets of the greens go by.
Putting Lilley there is fair warning of some seismic changes coming down the line.
http://thepointman.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/some-thoughts-about-policy-for-the-aftermath-of-the-climate-wars/
Pointman
But if as reported above Tara Singh is to take over in the Department, we lose one warmista for another one. Not the way to go. We need a wholesale clearout of the ones in the DECC who have a vested interest in making insane policy to fill their boots. Now would not be soon enough!
Try as they might Con/Lib/Lab can never renounce their swallowing of the AGW nonsense and the concommitent risible energy policy that spread both land and sea with windmills to reinforce their guilt.
Only the UKIP railed against the madness and their manifesto to that effect was published just a few weeks ago.
It is too late for any of the other three parties to occupy that ground before the next general election.
Without more warming they are toast.
Is that an oxymoron?
RAT, sinking ship.
Go, Peter Lilley. Is this the same man as Spitting Image used to caricature as a Gestapo officer?
Like Eddieo, I'll admit I wasn't his greatest fan in the past, but his "share price is rising".
simon,
No problem. I found the over all point very powerful. I leanred to long ago disregard most spelling issues. We are more like the 18th or early 19th century, when spelling was highly.....individualistic. Add to that the typing dyslexia so many of us suffer from, and the results are often quite entertaining.
I haven't posted on here before, usually though much less frequently on WUWT. But recently I've been reading about these shenanigans with the DECC, as well as some very funny comments. Plus I live in the UK so it's nice reading more local comments from time to time.
I despair at the idea of the DECC and that it appears that so little of them are engineering or science trained. But something happened today that was a little alarming and sorry to be a little off-topic. Two very nice well meaning girls came round my door this afternoon from Greenpeace. (I live in Bristol so not sure if this is relevant).
Anyway they started off by telling me Volkswagen had lobbied the EU to not cap carbon emissions. One of the girls was talking about dirty pollution from these cars when I said: "Hold up, Volkswagen are reknowned for making efficient cars." To which a reply of "Yes, that had that Blue Energy thing" (They used the exact wording - I'm paraphrasing here.
So I was getting the feeling that they wanted me to sign up for something. But they never actually told me what it was! Probably because I told them I was a physicist and had spent some time doing space engineering (satellite engines). I also had to tell them that no-one had actually measured back radiation in a convective environment and what it did to temperature of a surface. We talked about Denmark's windmills (apparently recently they generated over 3 months of power in one go). I tried to tell them that that was a freak event and usually they are about 3 to 10% efficient (I'm not sure of the numbers but it's low).
We talked about Peak Oil, which I agreed with, except that it's ecomonics. Like I read here, it's more about Peak Demand and restricting production than we are going to suddenly run out of oil. They talked about Arctic Ice and its decline over the last 30 years. I countered with we've only been able to look at the Arctic in detail over this time, yet there are account over the last century about open water passages in the ice. Also 2007 appears to be due to wind rather than a CO2 effect, itself not a fact (as said before).
At some point it felt like talking to Jehovis Witnesses (and apologies if you are one). They gave up after a while and said politely that their time would be better spent convincing somebody else, or something similar.
But here's the thing and it ties in with the DECC idiots - I'm sure some people signed up to this and that bothers me. It it was JW or some other bretheren group, the only person involved is that person. It doesn't harm or affect me.
But if people are signing up to a Greenpeace campaign (and a door to door canvassing one at that) then it had all the hallmarks of a con. I know the science is not settled (I actually prefer my science to be "solid", not "settled") but I can see the marketing and spin all to get money. And for something that I still don't know what it was about!
key officials at DECC
They were not energy experts but lack-of-energy experts. Good riddence.
It seems that the holder of a PPE from what most of us regard as 'good' universities is qualified to do little other than indulge the holder(s) in the fine art of politicing in the tradition of Niccolo Macciaveli. A PPE should be a red flag that leads to rejection for employment if it appears in any curriculum vitae, particularly in areas where the innocent taxpaying public may be affected. Similarly, another item in CVs which are worthy of much caution are 'business' degrees from any university 'school of business'.