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You cant keep some things down - Josh 215

Over at Climate Audit, Steve has been looking at the resurfacing of some Hockey Stick science papers, and the fun continues here and here.

Cartoons by Josh

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Bravo Josh,

although I would have preferred a skeleton's arm and hand.


Apr 21, 2013 at 6:28 PM | Registered Commenterpeterwalsh

OK, you got me. :)

It's clever, it's funny, it's beautifully drawn. Where did I put that humble pie?

Apr 21, 2013 at 7:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterJames Evans

Peter, the hand is a vague reference to a couple of well known films and of course Zombies are... well, Zombies.

James, v kind of you. No need for pie ;-)

Apr 21, 2013 at 7:43 PM | Registered CommenterJosh

Oh God that means that building firms will be buying into Wind Turbines then to get planning permission.

Higher Energy Bills and no Green Belt.Hope the Enviromentalists are feel happy

Apr 21, 2013 at 8:00 PM | Unregistered Commenterjamspid

"I would have preferred a skeleton's arm and hand"

What about a hockeystick skeleton ... on the wall behind Houghton?

But well done Josh, as always!

Apr 21, 2013 at 8:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterBebben

I really like it and that crack about "resurfacing" is pretty good too. Bravo Josh, and thank you.

Apr 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM | Registered Commenterjferguson


You misspelt 'manny' on the tombstone

Apr 21, 2013 at 10:47 PM | Unregistered CommenterJonas N

The various attempts to come up with something new to alarm us have been dealt with not by stakes and garlic to date, but by the simple expedient of examining their claims. A look is all it takes.

I guess they might as well try the zombie options now, since time is running out ahead of whatever press conferences they would like see for the next IPCC reports.

If we are pushed for time, the stakes and the garlic might be worth considering, but I think looking at the data will still suffice.

We are dealing with sophisticates at the diplomatic level, buffoons at the political level, and incompetents at the scientific one. How much longer can it last?

Apr 21, 2013 at 11:02 PM | Registered CommenterJohn Shade

Leafing through an old Giles cartoon annual, I am struck by the similarity of Josh to one of the children - the naughty one.
Very up to date cartoon, though - my kids are heavily into Zombies.

Apr 21, 2013 at 11:33 PM | Unregistered CommenterGrumpy

"Here lie..."? Quite good. Very good, in fact! Well done, Josh - one of your very best hidden message 'toons.

Apr 22, 2013 at 4:31 AM | Unregistered Commenterdp

And so into the MSM today:

Author Steven Phipps quoted in the Melbourne age this morning:

Also in Sydney Morning Herald and a marvelous graphic in the Herald Sun.
Also in UK Fin Times.

Here is the AFP story:

Apr 22, 2013 at 4:43 AM | Unregistered CommenterBernieL

And of course, the really great Ending to this story is that the Hockey stick is an ice version as we enter the new LIA.....

Apr 22, 2013 at 7:05 AM | Unregistered CommenterAlecm


Its probably even worse than that as the "offset" most likely wont even have to be in the UK?

I know, cynical!


Apr 22, 2013 at 8:31 AM | Unregistered Commentermailman
Apr 22, 2013 at 8:37 AM | Registered CommenterMartin A

Looking through Steve M's "info_PAGES2K.CSV" file it's surprising how often the same class of proxy is assumed to be both positively and negatively related to temperature, I counted 13 classes. Mostly it's not just 1 outlier in the class that has the opposite sign.

The North American network still appears to be using Bristlecone Pines (USDA symbol PILO).

Apr 22, 2013 at 10:43 AM | Unregistered Commenterredc

I think it's time for a prediction (notwithstanding how hard the future is to predict). In the recent Tingley-Huybers reconstruction rather than splicing on the instrumental data they tossed it into the mix of all the other proxies. So it wasn't a splice per se but the modern period was primarily instrumental data, a distinction without much of a difference.

So it seems inevitable that a future reconstruction will argue that the anomalies from a proxy Mercury thermometer in a particular location are negatively correlated to temperature.

Apr 22, 2013 at 11:11 AM | Unregistered Commenterredc

redc -
I'm sure you were joking, but according to Steve McIntyre

Several of the instrumental “proxies” in MBH98 had negative correlations to the overall temperature PC1 and were flipped in the reconstruction.

Apr 22, 2013 at 12:53 PM | Registered CommenterHaroldW


As predicting the future seems to be the way to go for the AGWists, let me offer one that I can guarantee will be 100% accurate: The future will be very little like anything that is being predicted, if it drastically different from today's circumstances.

(See cheshirered’s link in “Met Office on the cold in March” for good examples of what some are predicting.)

Apr 22, 2013 at 7:04 PM | Unregistered CommenterRadical Rodent

HaroldW I was of course joking, I hadn't seen that said of MBH98 before so I'm a little late to the party.

Apr 22, 2013 at 8:20 PM | Unregistered Commenterredc

redc -
I was equally surprised to see that.

Apr 22, 2013 at 9:09 PM | Registered CommenterHaroldW

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