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Bishop Hill Caption competition
May 27, 2012 Climate: Allen Myles Allen recently met rapper Will.I.Am in Oxford, the latter's arrival in a large helicopter being much noted by the press. Readers are cordially invited to suggest a caption for the photo below.
The prize for the best entry will be a coffee mug adorned with the Josh cartoon of your choice.
Reader Comments (251)
My considered opinion, after several years of attempting dialogue with adherents of climatology, is - definitely the latter.
FG
I think you may be right. I'm sure Josh would agree!
Pharos: If Josh is the winner he may be a little disappointed in the prize...
SunGCR
"long range forecasting becomes nigh impossible"
As the MO have already stated it to be. I wonder where MA intends to apply his research..?
Myles: "So Will.i.am, will you give up the helicopter to save the planet?"
Will.i.am: "Will.i.hell!"
See, Montford doesn’t realise this, but even if I unhide the decline, my stick’s still huge!
to Simon Abingdon: they all tried to engage him in serious conversation, but he was only on transmit, not receive, and didn't appear to understand what the issues were, so this is definitely the better way hopefully to catch his attention
Will.i.am: I can't believe that you consider the use of short centered PCA even mildly respectable...
Allen: Yes, but if I use this professional headshot, don't you think I might reach the 45 and up female demographic?
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When the great mass delusion ends, it will be because it has become universally regarded as a joke and has been laughed out of existence. Not because scientific discussions have led climate scientists to conclude they were mistaken.
This Caption Competition thread may well have done more toward that eventual result than many earnest discussions of technicalities.
-"out=flipud(filter(B,A,flipud([filter(B,A,[Proxy1960;Instrumental])])));"
" Will have you seen my picture on Youtube ? "
This is how you play PACO2man. The little PaCO2 guys chase the little LWIR guys and gobble them up. You get extra points for spitting them back to the little earth at the bottom of the screen!
May 28, 2012 at 2:08 PM | James P :
Ooops, my use of blockquote went awry... sorry :)
Skip
You've reminded me that it's taken over 50 years to supercede this:
Rotordyne
SunGCR
Room 101 beckons.. :-(
More climate raptrap ?
"Maybe if we simply turn our backs to such things they'll sound a lot better?"
"I'm ordering one of those jackets in Oxford blue."
May 28, 2012 at 2:58 PM | Martin A
+1
Laugh these useful idiots out of existence. Make laughing at CAGW a national sport, and the already severely crumbling CAGW house of cards will collapse.
As I said to a dear friend the other day:
Here's the link:
Time for Next Eco-Scare?! Obama follows lead of green movement and demotes global warming --UN now says case for saving species 'more powerful than climate change
May 28, 2012 at 4:07 PM | jamesp:
Yep, chuck CAGW into Room 101 ;-)
I look forward to the day that someone suggests this on TV. We might have a long wait.
No, I am not allowed to win. It's in the rules, we made them up and everything ;-)
"Hey, Will, I can use AutoTune too."
Admiral Allen: See, you sunk the Mike Mann :-(
Commodore I.Am: CRU-Battleships rocks!
will.i.am: "Myles! Whatcha gonna do with all that junk, all that junk inside your trunk?"
Myles: "Imma get get get get you drunk, get you lovedrunk off my humps"
Martin A May 28, 2012 at 2:58 PM
"Not because scientific discussions have led climate scientists to conclude they were mistaken".
Martin, sadly I'm pretty sure you're going to be right and for me it'll be a great shame for everyone if it can't be otherwise.
(Btw I still think the caption competition diminishes BH's gravitas, especially given the generally poor standard of the entries. Maybe I'll change my tune if there's an absolute stunner waiting to send me to bed roaring with laughter, but I haven't noticed it yet).
See Will, the opposition now have a caption competition about you on Bishop Hill, you have got street cred with the best minds in the climate debate!
"Its a laptop Will"
.....
"No I said laptop not lapdancer"
"You press buttons and it does things"
.....
No! I already said it was not a lap dancer"
......
"Forget the laptop, we want you to rap about CO2"
....
"No!! CO2 is not a lap dancer either"
.....
"No CO2 does not have buttons -.- "
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"yes OK we can go to a lapdancing club now"
This caption is in the style of a certain genre of greetings card:
"Inspired by Professor Myles Allen explaining how his distributed computing project is helping in the fight against climate change, rapper Will.i.am donated £15,000 of laptops to a music charity saying he now realised how beneficial distributing computers was to the environment."
@Foxgoose I think you are quite correct. AGW may have begun as an honest mistake. But for many like Allen, Hansen, Mann, Briffa, Trenberth, etc., it has transmogrified into a gravy train that allows them to be 'scientists' like Carl Sagan was. They have nothing to gain and everything to lose if they were to admit it is nothing but a hoax.
Were they to 'fess up' they would lose their multimillion dollar research grants, their jobs, their prestige. They might even be prosecuted for fraud.
As for the usefull idiots like the leftwing politicians, journalists, and environmental activists, they believe in AGW because they WANT it to be true. We cannot reason with them because they did not adopt their positions on the issue through reason in the first place. But we may be able to ridicule them into dropping their ridiculous governmental policy proposals.
May 28, 2012 at 9:44 PM | Jungle Jim
Well said!
"And if you need the temperatures to go down just dial the aerosol knob like this."
It's "Will I Is" you dummy.
DavidCH
That was VERY funny ^.^
For anyone interested in delving into the provenance of the term useful idiots, you might find this BBC documentary of interest.
Wikipedia defines historical & contemporary use of 'Useful idiot' as:
To apply the term 'useful idiots' to the CAGW cause, replace old terms relating to the Soviets with CAGW-related elements. Thus:
Soviet sympathizers --> Public CAGW figures (Mann, Gore, Hansen, Myles Allen etc)
Communism cause --> CAGW cause (Act now or the planet will evaporate or whatever!) (the malignant cause)
Leaders of the cause = Institutions like Club of Rome, United Nations, UEA, Royal Society
The origins of the CAGW cause/scare often are not widely known, as far as I can tell. From reading UN docs (Agenda 21/Sustainable Development), it appears that much of the CAGW scare originated from groups like the so-called Club Of Rome, who appear to write much material for the United Nations.
Then it becomes interesting to know who these people are, to understand what their agenda is about. It appears they worry themselves silly about things like over-population and resource depletion (possibly leading to wars etc), and much of this thinking appears to have originated from people like Thomas Malthus, Paul R. Ehrlich, James Lovelock etc. These people have all been proved spectacularly wrong so far in their predictions of doom and gloom.
The doom-mongers lost their bet with Julian Simon - see the Simon-Ehrlich wager for more details.
So, if the above analysis is correct, then CAGW was a fiction created to attempt to avert future conflict due to resources running out. The solution invented appears to be 'Sustainable Development'. Next reading material.
Supporting this idea is this quotation, from the Club of Rome itself:
So, we're the enemy. Geddit? Might be wise to read up on Agenda 21 to see where we're headed...
Have you noticed how much you see 'Sustainable Development' in local council texts already?
Rio+20 (aka Earth Summit 2012) is the next big Eco conference to watch. It's all about Sustainable Development. Runs from June 20th until June 22nd.
As the Guardian appears to be the biggest UK media advocate for Sustainable Development, you might like to comment on their articles, assuming Suzanne Goldenberg isn't the author, as she doesn't seem to like commenters. Wonder why? ;-)
Here's the Guardian's Rio+20 page which contains links to all their Rio+20 articles.
Rio+20 should be full of the usual theatrics and 'save the worlders' so should be good entertainment.
This is a great site which goes into more detail about all of this, apparently written by someone who had a hand in writing text for Agenda 21, until they realised it was sinister.
@simon abingdon:
Simon, it seems to me that by the time Andrew had posted the Caption Contest, Myles Allen had already demonstrated that he had very little interest in "constructive" dialogue with any of us. Consider the following timeline:
May 25 7:27 pm - last post in the original thread (with video from Communicate 2011, in which MA succeeded in getting Climategate spectacularly wrong, while blaming journalists for "mis-selling"). To the best of my knowledge there was no response from MA in that thread which began on May 23.
May 26 (sometime prior to 7:28 am when Philip Bratby's first comment appeared) Andrew posted, at MA's request, his reply to the comments in that thread. Except that it was non-responsive to any of the valid concerns raised. I found it particularly notable that, once again, MA was attempting to blame others:
It is worth noting that MA has not specified these "irrelevancies" - nor has he made clear at whom he is pointing his finger of blame, this time.
In this new thread, MA made three appearances (prior to his exit stage-left on May 28 at 12:28 am):
May 26 9:06 am
May 26 9:15 am
May 27 8:14 am
This May 27 comment was merely a copy and paste in which he combined two comments he had made at CA:
http://climateaudit.org/2012/05/26/myles-allen-and-hide-the-decline/#comment-334919
and
http://climateaudit.org/2012/05/26/myles-allen-and-hide-the-decline/#comment-334915
Such non-responsive and/or diversionary contributions might be your idea of "constructive dialogue", but it certainly isn't mine. And while I cannot speak for Andrew, I would suggest that in light of the above, this caption contest thread - which did not begin until May 27 (sometime prior to 9:02 AM when the first comment appeared) - is far too kind.
And if one adds to this, MA's parting whine (May 28, 12:28 am) in which he describes an embedded video as:
and conflates and completely mischaracterizes** criticisms from a thread to which he chose not to respond directly - while ignoring the very valid questions and criticisms in the thread in which he did deign to "respond", then all I can conclude is that he had no interest whatsoever in "constructive dialogue".
**MA's parting whine included the out of left-field:
I, for one, would certainly appreciate knowing which specific comments could have led him (or anyone else for that matter) to such a conclusion.
"So you really think that as Myles.I.Am the spin-off and licensing upside is unlimited?"
or
"Don't be offended but I really prefer a new age symbol for 'The artist formerly known as Myles'"
[one has to remember the days of "Prince" re-inventing himself to get the latter]
Hope we are allowed more than one entry.
Allen "Check out this super duper model"
i.Am "That's one temp. fitting model right there".
or something along them lines.
No edit button ;(
replace my with this and alowed with allowed.
[Done. Ed.]
"So you're sure that Lady Gaga is signed on to promote the new CCS plan?"
"OK, Will.I.Am, here's my idea for promoting carbon sequestration in your new album"
or
"My good man, have you ever thought about investing in a CCS facility?"
[me: ok, I can't help myself, but I will try not to post any more captions]
@Hilary Ostrov May 28, 2012 at 11:54 PM
Accepted without qualification. I was wrong about Myles Allen and wrong about the appropriateness of the caption competition. Apologies to all.
Hats off to Simon Abingdon.
Despite Hilary Ostrov's incontrovertible time line and Simon Abingdon's gracious apology, I am confident that Myles Allen's unsubstantiated assertion that "sceptics in general and Andrew Montford in particular are not willing to enter into serious debate" will become part of the warmist canon.
"And look Will, you can even see your carbon footprint from space."
Most gracious Simon - how refreshing to come across someone who reviews his conclusions in the light of the evidence.
They ought to fire Pachauri and put you in charge at the IPCC.
H/T to Simon and Ed.
This thread is addictive.
Allen "It's a great honour for the British public to carry the London 2012 torch, so whos place did you take again Will.i.am?"
Slllooowwww day at work.
"This is the new CCS attachment that will enable you to fly the hip.hop.copter and be carbon neutral."
Well done Simon, for reviewing the available data and adjusting your view accordingly.
And to publicly declare this takes guts - the sign of a strong & mature person.
"Fuel consumption, Will? Why worry? Just call me Myles.Perg.Allen"
(I'll get my coat..)