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Tuesday
Feb212012

Shrove Tuesday - Josh 150

There seems to be some confusion in some minds as to what is heroic and what is plain illegal. Let's hope the spirit of Shrove Tuesday leads to clearer light being shed on current sins.

 

Cartoons by Josh

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Well, now we know who did it.

No surprise -- a prominent climate activist stoops to deception to steal documents which he thinks may damage "the other side" and then tries to claim partial justification.

Lying, amorality and rank hypocrisy -- the hallmarks of the Left/Green personality

Feb 21, 2012 at 1:46 PM | Unregistered CommenterRick Bradford

Very good, Josh. The Pudgy Super-Hero With Beard image tickles me. ;)

Andrew

Feb 21, 2012 at 2:00 PM | Unregistered CommenterBad Andrew

Nice one, Josh!

I hope Ash Wednesday will see Gleick covering himself in ash, in the hope the authorities will forgive him.

Feb 21, 2012 at 2:17 PM | Unregistered CommenterViv Evans

Good one. LOL

Where can I buy an "integrity bin"? That certainly would come in handy.

Feb 21, 2012 at 2:17 PM | Unregistered CommenterMac

It isn't just a few purloined memos that Gleick has stuffed into Josh's integrity bin. It is his entire life's work. He phoned up Heartland and told them a bunch of lies. He was lying for the cause. We have no reason to believe that this was a unique occasion. His published research may also contain fabrications of various kinds. It shouldn't be cited any longer.

Feb 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM | Unregistered CommenterJane Coles

Gleick's reputation may be completly and totally destroyed, but that should not prevent him from getting a job working with Bob Ward at the Grantham Institute!

Feb 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM | Unregistered CommenterDon B

Genius Josh, I have laughed all day.

Feb 21, 2012 at 2:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterAthelstan.

Shrove Tuesday

The problem with making pancakes is that sometimes you are left with egg all over your face.

I know this from some bad experiences in the kitchen.

Feb 21, 2012 at 2:39 PM | Unregistered CommenterMac

Great art work as ever Josh, but just one request can you do a positive piece of art for fair balance, you know BH with a snapped hockey stick sort of thing.

Feb 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM | Unregistered CommenterShevva

Josh,

97% of climate scientists believe that obtaining documents by fraudulent means is a hunky dory method to support "the noble cause" and to fight the forces of evil.

Feb 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM | Unregistered CommenterPolitical Junkie

That is by far your best so far.

Have you tried sending it to newspapers to see any will print it?

Feb 21, 2012 at 2:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterMike Haseler

Josh is obviously having a field day with all of this!

Well done that man!!

Have not laughed so much in ages!

Feb 21, 2012 at 2:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterDoug

Political Junkie 97% of climate scientists believe that obtaining documents by fraudulent means is a hunky dory method to support "the noble cause" and to fight the forces of evil.

May I suggest "the overwhelming consensus of climate scientists condones law breaking"

Feb 21, 2012 at 3:00 PM | Unregistered CommenterMike Haseler

Mac, brilliant! I so wanted to get pancakes in there somewhere, so thank you!

Feb 21, 2012 at 3:04 PM | Registered CommenterJosh

Not certain you could describe Gleick as "pudgy" though.

Feb 21, 2012 at 3:09 PM | Unregistered Commentermrsean2k

Shevva, not sure what you mean, can you explain? Do email if you like, josh at cartoonsbyjosh.com

Mike, I am not sure MSM is very interested in climate shenanigans - they seem to studiously ignore them.

Feb 21, 2012 at 3:10 PM | Registered CommenterJosh

MrSean2K, he is not Peter Gleick. So far he has confessed to blagging but not to the faking.

So I went for a stereotypical climate scientist - we all know the type, round, bearded and doing something suspicious. And now caught out. Again.

Feb 21, 2012 at 3:13 PM | Registered CommenterJosh

Nothing succeeds like excess: We expect that Gleick as a peculating Green Gang fraudster will likely succeed the death-eating John Holdren as Science Commissar in the next ultra-reactionary U.S. Administration.

Feb 21, 2012 at 3:23 PM | Unregistered CommenterJohn Blake

Brilliant Josh, we've all been waiting and you're quick to deliver.

Keep the martyr angle in mind for a possible follow-up ;-)

Feb 21, 2012 at 3:31 PM | Unregistered CommenterDavid

@ Josh Feb 21, 2012 at 3:10 PM

I am not sure MSM is very interested in climate shenanigans - they seem to studiously ignore them.

And in this instance, for some of them ... thanks to their trust in the Great Gleick's Gleanings, they're left with egg on their faces! There you go ... the perfect pancake segue :-)

P.S. I loved this one, too ... Come to think of it, I can honestly say that I've never ever encountered a Josh cartoon that did not give me amazingly humourous food for thought ... as well as leaving me in awe of your talent!

Feb 21, 2012 at 3:36 PM | Unregistered CommenterHilary Ostrov

Josh

So I went for a stereotypical climate scientist - we all know the type, round, bearded and doing something suspicious. And now caught out. Again.

Obviously stereotyping, but true.

You just keep in improving with age. Keep it up.

Feb 21, 2012 at 3:39 PM | Unregistered CommenterDon Pablo de la Sierra

'....round, bearded and doing something suspicious. And now caught out. Again.'

....and no matter how outrageously criminal their actions, ignored by their institutions, journalists, and the media.

Feb 21, 2012 at 3:48 PM | Unregistered CommenterZT
Feb 21, 2012 at 3:52 PM | Unregistered Commentersimpleseekeraftertruth

Gleick did two things. First, he revealed private corporate documents that held personal information as well as corporate ones. For this he needs to be reprimanded in court, censured and made to apologize cleanly. The "damage" he created in this first part is social, not economic or professional. No one's reputation for integrity or belief system has been tarnished, as long as being public with what you think or do is not personally embarrassing. Which it is not or should not be.

The second thing Gleick did was cause to be disseminated a forged document that did, indeed, harm the corporate, personal and professional reputations of an Institute, its staff and their collegial associates. For this Gleick needs to be legally accountable to the standard extent of the law. When you seek to damage, you are responsible to ensure, even at a whistleblower level, that what you claim is true. This he didn't do, though fact-checking such a thing is certainly not easy. But if you can't determine whether what you have learned is true, then you have no business splashing it over the world.

Gleick et al justify his actions under the Noble Cause banner, that the threat to mankind from resistance to CAGW beliefs is so great as to allow even moderate, normally criminal actions. Al Gore, Jim Hansen, Micheal Mann, Phil Jones, the IPCC - all those swarming at the pulpits of the CO2 villianry should be standing with Gleick in the spotlight. Gleick himself is a parishoner of the Church: he parrots what the priests say, the wise ones who have Latin on their tongues and the "authority" to interpret the scripture of CO2-environmentalism. If it were not for the Team, the Gore, the research-for-money and the profits-from-fear, Gleick would not have become so rabidly involved. He is a victim of the hysteria. Those that generated the hysteria are the ultimate perpetrators of his crimes.

Gleick's Heartland releases are viewed by many in public responses as an equivalent of the two e-mail releases known as Climategate I & II. The non-approved release of the Climategate e-mails is a similar act of personal action as Gleick's. It was a breach of trust done (it appears) in response to an individual's outrage at what he/she saw as hypocritcal bullying and lying. But the Climategate leaks actually created personal, professional and corporate harm because, unlike the Heartland documents, the e-mails actually revealed double-speak, conspiracies and personal venom of top movers and shakers of CO2-environmentalists. The e-mails were not fake, and while a lifetime knowledge of the writers might make one more tolerant of their words, their words indicate decisions and actions that were and are deplorable. We dislike the writers not for their scientific positions, but for their meanspirited, underhanded insistence of getting their own way at the expense of others. They are embarrassed because their mendacity is embarrassing.

Gleick also says he did what he did because he was unable to get an open discussion. DeSmog, speaking for themselves perhaps, but also as a public representative of their Silent Minority, say they, too, are frustrated that such a discourse cannot be had with the non-warmists. (Let us ignore the history of him (and his associates) pointedly refusing to be involved in discussing CAGW.) I propose that, as part of the resolution of his legal problems, a public debate on CAGW should be required of him. Up on a stage, with his graphs, including his funding data. For once, let the data speak, not the emotion of clustered polar bears on bergy bits.

And with him should be the Gore, the Mann, and those whose stident speeches brought him to the world's stage. Let us have Hansen explain why his "C" scenario, in which CO2 ceased to be produced in 2000, profiles most closely the last 34 years of "global" warming.

Gleick should have company on that stage. Is it not fair that, when a play fails, the director as well as the lead actor receive the audience's shower of rotten tomatoes?

Feb 21, 2012 at 4:20 PM | Unregistered CommenterDoug Proctor

Just a Gleitch in the big scam...

Feb 21, 2012 at 4:25 PM | Unregistered CommenterTomRude

Bob ward gets a guardian launch-pad http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/feb/21/heartland-institute-leak-climate-attack?intcmp=239

Feb 21, 2012 at 4:30 PM | Unregistered Commentermarkj

Gleickenspeil - gives out bum notes!

Feb 21, 2012 at 4:36 PM | Unregistered CommenterMac

At least we now know how Gleick tried to resolve Stephen Schneider's conundrum about whether to be honest or effective.

Unfortunately he has managed to be neither, the great lying ecofascist...

Feb 21, 2012 at 5:27 PM | Unregistered CommenterJustice4Rinka

I suspect he only confessed because he had to.

Who was it that said the true measure of a man is what he would do if he thought he would never be found out? Was it Kant? Can't remember.

Feb 21, 2012 at 5:51 PM | Unregistered CommenterRB

The spotlight and startled look image reminded me of the old "Band on the Run" album cover (by Wings).
Showing my age I know but I think that title is quite appropriate in the circumstances.

Feb 21, 2012 at 6:10 PM | Unregistered Commentergristle

'It’s a Gleick Tragedy' -

H/T Joe on WUWT

Feb 21, 2012 at 7:30 PM | Unregistered CommenterPharos

Beware of Gleick's sharing gifts.

Feb 21, 2012 at 8:08 PM | Unregistered Commentersimpleseekeraftertruth

In my opinion, this is just the last leg of a journey of desperation by the alarmists, who have decided any means is justified to stop their side losing the scientific debate.

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/18116

The end of the debate has come, and the alarmist lost - to scientists and engineers. Not some nefarious political entity (like the IPCC). This is how the scientific process plays out when it becomes heated and distorted by the likes of the Hockey Team and IPCC.

Which is why no means justifies an end arrived at by unjustifiable methods

Feb 21, 2012 at 8:12 PM | Unregistered CommenterAJStrata

Another memorable comment spotted in the WUWT headline post, from Pat Michaels

michaelspj says:

February 20, 2012 at 7:48 pm


Years ago, Gleick made series of outrageous comments on my professional activities. I chose to let it be because I thought, if given his head, he would bring himself and his friends (read: RealClimate) down with him. Appears my strategy worked. Kudos kudos kudos to Ross Kaminsky and Joe Bast. Wait till you see how much money Gleick has made off of his vituperation, which will come out. I’ll bet it’s close to the Heartland budget.

PJM

Feb 21, 2012 at 8:19 PM | Unregistered CommenterPharos

Gleick must be a hero because Monbiot has an article in the Guardian today about the battle for democracy.

We need to know who funds these think tank lobbyists
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/20/who-funds-thinktank-lobbyists?INTCMP=SRCH

"The battle for democracy is becoming a fight against backroom billionaires seeking to shape politics to suit their own interests."

"Shocking, fascinating, entirely unsurprising: the leaked documents, if authentic, confirm what we suspected but could not prove. The Heartland Institute, which has helped lead the war against climate science in the United States, is funded among others by tobacco firms, fossil fuel companies and one of the billionaire Koch brothers."

"The leaked documents appear to show that, courtesy of its multimillionaire donors, the institute has commissioned a global warming curriculum for schools which teaches that 'whether humans are changing the climate is a major scientific controversy' and 'whether CO2 is a pollutant is controversial'. "

For some reason Monbiot does not actually mention Gleick's name in the article. I wonder why not?

Feb 21, 2012 at 9:14 PM | Unregistered CommenterRoy

So what are those five stages again?
I see we are up to "then they fight you".

Feb 21, 2012 at 9:26 PM | Unregistered CommenterGreg Cavanagh

From the OED


Gleke, v. (obs)
1. trans. To trick, circumvent. (In quot. 1614 with allusion to gleek n.1)

1577 G. Harvey Let.-bk. (1884) 56 Methinkes thou gleekiste many a lorde.
1614 J. Cooke Greenes Tu Quoque D 2 b, Scat. Come Gentlemen, what's your game? Sta. Why Gleeke, that's your onely game. Gleeke let it be, for I am perswaded I shall gleeke some of you; cut sir.
1653 T. Urquhart tr. Rabelais 1st Bk. Wks. xii. 59 He hath gleeked us to some purpose, bobbed we are now for ever.
1661 Tom Tyler & his Wife 3 The more that I get her, the more she doth glike me.

Feb 21, 2012 at 9:29 PM | Unregistered CommenterJonathan Jones

ssat --
I think in the case it would be: Beware of Gleick's baring gifts.

Feb 21, 2012 at 9:51 PM | Unregistered CommenterHaroldW

Where was Josh with this back alley abortion of a cartoon when the villains broke down the CRU firewall to steal what lay within?

It's comic to see Gleick, who asked Heartland for corroboratory information and was handed it by return mail condemned by those who have lionized hackers for staging server break-ins of a sort that put Newscorp to shame.

Feb 21, 2012 at 10:09 PM | Unregistered CommenterRussell

Fenbeagle adds his contribution.
http://fenbeagleblog.wordpress.com/2012/02/21/gleickety-gleick/

Feb 21, 2012 at 10:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterAdam Gallon

Nice one Josh! :-D

http://fenbeagleblog.wordpress.com/2012/02/21/gleickety-gleick/

Feb 21, 2012 at 10:41 PM | Unregistered Commenterfenbeagle

Russell -- it's past your bedtime.

Feb 21, 2012 at 10:54 PM | Unregistered CommenterJane Coles

According to Tom Nelson, Gleick has tooled himself up with ex Gore spin doctor & Democrat operative Chris Lehane - who was known as one of Clinton's "Masters of Disaster" in the Lewinsky days (he's even had a movie made about himself called "Knife Fight").

Quote - "“I’m a guy who would not be at all surprised to find worms under the rock — but I’d make sure to put bigger, slimier, nastier worms under the other guy’s rock,”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/08/us/politics/a-washington-rivalry-turns-cinematic.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

He's also using top San Francisco defence lawyer John Keker who defended Enron's CFO.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/11/04/BUGT42PFEN1.DTL&ao=all

http://www.kvn.com/about

Both Lehane and Keker are known for doing extensive pro-bono work for left wing causes.

Lehane helped promote Michael Moores movies and Keker's practice is strong on civil rights and "diversity" issues.

It seems to me this is no longer just a maverick Prof defending himself for stupid and dishonest behaviour - it looks more like the stage is being set for the sort of major "good versus evil" political showpiece event that the US left loves staging.

If that's the case, it would be unwise to assume that "good" in our terms will triumph.

Think of Clinton, Soros, the OJ trial and Chicago politics.

This could be Climatology's last stand - and the left will stop at nothing to win.

Feb 21, 2012 at 11:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterFoxgoose

Josh

Just seen your latest on the Guardian calender boys at WUWT !

Yes!

Feb 21, 2012 at 11:44 PM | Unregistered CommenterPharos

Commentergristle

The spotlight and startled look image reminded me of the old "Band on the Run" album cover (by Wings).
Showing my age I know but I think that title is quite appropriate in the circumstances.

So, you're a young pup. :)

Feb 22, 2012 at 12:09 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil R

Russell

"It's comic to see Gleick, who asked Heartland for corroboratory information and was handed it by return mail condemned by those who have lionized hackers for staging server break-ins of a sort that put Newscorp to shame."

If you have knowledge or evidence of server break-ins or other illegal activity you should report it to the police since they have found none so far. Otherwise, you ought to keep your false and irrational accusations to yourself.

Feb 22, 2012 at 12:20 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil R

It's comic to see Gleick, who asked Heartland for corroboratory information and was handed it by return mail condemned by those who have lionized hackers for staging server break-ins of a sort that put Newscorp to shame.
Feb 21, 2012 at 10:09 PM | Unregistered CommenterRussell

Holy Macaroni! It is on again.

Feb 22, 2012 at 12:27 AM | Unregistered CommentersHx

I'm sad to see such a brilliant, but easily-influenced, man brought so low by those whom, masquerading as his friends, encouraged him to exhibit a recklessness that they could only dream of while wishing that they could be part of.
Peter is indeed a hero but not for the reasons whimpered, albeit loudly, by certain outlets. He's a hero but only because those who cheered him on were spineless, fair-weather friends.
Sorry Peter but their cowardice is inversely proportional to your stubborn strength!

Feb 22, 2012 at 1:20 AM | Unregistered CommenterRoyFOMR

Joe Bast directly accuses Gleick of "forging a 2-page memo" in an interview with the WSJ.

http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2012/02/another-climate-scandal.html

Great interview, by the way.

Feb 22, 2012 at 2:12 AM | Unregistered CommenterRick Bradford

In Joe Bast's interview linked above, it's instructive to compare Bast's description of Peter Gleick (no demonisation) with, say, how Michael Mann describes those who disagree with him.

Feb 22, 2012 at 2:45 AM | Unregistered CommenterHaroldW

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