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Bishop Hill +++BBC Climate 28 revealed+++
Nov 12, 2012 BBC Maurizio Morabito has obtained the details of the BBC climate 28. It had been published by the International Broadcasting Trust.
Greenpeace, Tearfund, Television for the Environment (one of the companies involved in the BBC free programming scandal), Stop Climate Chaos, Npower Renewables, E3G, and dear old Mike Hulme from UEA. Just the group you'd want guiding climate change coverage. Read the whole thing.
[For those who don't know what this is about, read the back story here.]
Reader Comments (231)
Great work Maurizio - that list is far worse than I thought that even the BBC could stoop to - incredible!
Wow. Peter Rippon, meet Lord May, Mike Hulme - and a few others.
I'm sure I've heard that first name somewhere recently?
Good to see some real sceptics like ... er not at all sure.
And what was the point of all that money on FOI against Tony Newbery if the IBT coughed this up anyway?
Am actually jumping up and down like a kangaroo at the moment. Biggest thing since the unearthing of the 1974 CIA report.
Tonight, I am good.
Tonight, Maurizio, you are the best!
It includes "George Entwistle, Head of TV Current Affairs" who has just failed publicly when it came to the crunch.
Many on this list have failed in secret. It is largely a list of shame.
Well done, Maurizio. Pick your own medal!!
Too many names on that list that have no business to be "advising" anyone who doesn't already know the answer they want and are determined to get it.
How does the BBC justify spending public money on an attempt to cover up something that had already been published?
Congratulations Maurizio, the list shows to me pressure groups and vested interests and not much science. No wonder the BBC wanted it hidden and spent thousands of pounds of public money doing so. The BBC is a shameful biased corrupt institution that should be closed down immediately.
Nice one - what a crowd! There is a lot of analysis to be had there. At a minimum it should now stop the Beeb spending £40,000 a day of our license money to keep that list out of circulation and promote the myth of expertise. :)
Bravo!!
Well done. Now air these points on FoR3!
I notice they have people from the US, from China from Denmark from German. They even have two people from greenpeace ...
But as far as I can see:
THEY HAVE NO F**KING PERSON FROM SCOTLAND
Maybe The Head of Comedy hailed from Scotland, Mike.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
I do recommend to use the Waybackmachine list to get all the other names of all the other seminars, from 2004 to 2007. It is the classic "treasure trove" of anything we can think of about the BBC and environmental matters.
Is anybody going to hold the BBC to account for spending licence payers' money on lawyers to keep secret something that was in the public domain after all?
Looks like only 5 scientists: May, Hulme, Bravo, Dahl-Jensen and Widdicombe with only the last three being currently active. All of these have the same viewpoint with respect to AGW and not a single counter opinion in sight.
What a surprise - confirmation bias writ large - Is it any surprise that they came to the same consensus conclusion.
ALL
Make sure you read the link at the top of the link - if you see wht I mean. Learn someting about the IBT (who?). And then chuckle at Thompson's tirade against the GWPF!
Well done Maurizio. At least we all know what they were trying to hide now. I remember Google once saying that if you didn't want something to be found, then you shouldn't have done it!
Has anyone told Tony Newbery? He deserves to know that he won. :)
I've told Tony.
Is it something about climate alarmists that makes them completely f...g incompetent with technology?
First Phil (Boy) Jones 'loses' all his confidentiality agreements. Then we get to see the sad sad story of Ian (Harry) Harris at CRU in Harry_Read_Me. Now all the Beeb's horses and all the Beeb's men - and all their expensive lawyers - have been outwitted by the esteemed blogger omnologos.
I'm jolly glad that they don't use these computer thingies that they don't understand to run climate models or nuffink.
Great find!! A review of the "28 experts" is stunning (though not really surprising). The public was told this was a group of best science minds, but in fact it is an activist and policy group with hardly any serious scientists present.
So, we finally get to see the list of great scientific minds that determined that the science is settled at the BBC.
Well done Maurizio!
Tony Newberry will be smiling tonight.
George Entwistle??? Crumbs! So the DG was in FULL knowledge of the recent court case, and wanted his attendance to be kept secret, and when made DG, didn’t believe it of worth to declare his position as being in direct conflict with the BBC’s legal Charter! That alone is reason to walk, but without any severance pay as that is gross professional misconduct!
all advocates for one side - the BBC is busted
Exceptional work - congratulations!
I suppose it's too much to hope that la Boaden will be forced to pay the ludicrous costs of this exercise in corporate dissembling out of her own pocket, on the grounds that if she had been in possession of even a modest command of her job she would have known it was already available?
Thank you Maurizio. Thank you Tony.
... no *really* THANK you both.
It's quite amazing the positions the BBC delegates were in by the time the Jimmy Savile story broke on 3rd October.
Peter Rippon, editor of Newsnight
Steve Mitchell, his boss
Helen Boaden, his boss's boss, head of News
George Enwistle, her boss, newly crowned director general.
They're weren't as influential when the seminar took place but by last month they were. That's always an interesting sign. Were some of the highly promoted ones, at least, those that showed that they understood the line being propounded and were willing tirelessly to implement it?
All but Entwistle were in those posts when the Newsnight story on Savile was canned late in 2001. The journalists who do the actual and very challenging work on which the BBC's reputation depends - in this case Meirion Jones and Liz MacKean - are nowhere to be seen. But note what MacKean writes in emails at the time about Rippon (as reported by the Daily Mail)
Now we see every one of the official chain 'right to the top' attending this key seminar, without pesky journalists to bother them and (just perhaps) ask awkward questions of the NGO 'scientists'. The Savile issue is a sideshow, I realise, in a sense, except it's a trail of deception the general public is passionate about, leading to every single one in this chain currently being removed from their posts. Jean Seaton, official historian of the BBC, had some very useful thoughts at the Frontline Club last week on why this issue has such power, in case you've missed that. It surely means we've been handed the list, courtesy of Maurizio, at a wonderfully opportune time.
This calls for a glass of the good stuff. Cheers Maurizio.
The list of titles of the non-BBC attendees says it all:
Advocacy Director
Chair
Climate campaigner
CO2 Project Manager
Director
Executive Director
Head of Campaigns
Policy Director
TV/multimedia producer
Latimer, I am going to steal that one.
Richard, I do not see BBC News survive unless it's completely taken out of the BBC.
Anyone from the MSM reading? This is a good story to pile on top of all the BBC's recent bad news. Wasting thousands of pounds of license payer's money on deliberately attempting to prevent the release of a list that had already been published on the internet.
I hope no-one from the Norfolk Police is reading - using the wayback machine probably counts as 'hacking' in their book. Keep the door barred Maurizio! :)
To quote the IPCC, "it is worse than we thought".
What an utter bunch of losers.
Are they really the ignorant, bigoted buffoons who decide what we, the people who actually pay these wasters, should actually hear on the news?
Sack the lot of them.
One might ask though what the Church if England is doing having representation at a 'secret' meeting. The Christian faith must be the most open and transparent of beliefs - nothing should be hidden. It must also be supportive of bettering the human condition, not treating it with contempt.
There is however a group within the CofE called 'Shrinking the Footprint' that's totally wedded to CAGW, and doesn't understand that the environmentalist program is diametrically opposed to Christianity, i.e. puts gaia before man and considers man as a "cancer on the earth". There are a few of us within the CofE however that see fossil fuels as part of God's "good" creation and gift to man, and that CO2 is a vital part of the cycle of life itself. From this Christian perspective then, God designed Earth's processes with man burning fuels as an INTEGRATED part, not an unintended cancerous growth. Apologies to the non-religious, I'm not preaching, but sharing a Biblical perspective that actually agrees with and supports a scientific scepticism that desires scientific truth.
I wonder if the BBC are going to publish anything on this astonishing story?
Only around 6 are from ENGLISH universities. So, I wondered what area of the climate they specialised in. I start with the first name of the list:
Robert, Lord May of Oxford Department of Zoology
Why not the department of needlework and making things with sticky tape and awarding blue Peter badges? (Sarc off)
@omnologos
'Latimer, I am going to steal that one'.
Steal away, dear heart, steal away! We are all eternally in your debt for your smart and influential work.
I am having great difficulty in stopping laughing. It really isn't the Beeb's week is it.......? May it go yet further downhill.
I didn't know about the "IBT" connection. It seems that the whole thing was held at their behest and, given that they are a lobbying group, there was only going to be one type of "expert" on the panel. The story that the BBC has previously given, or at least implied, was the the CMEP meeting was some kind of independent meeting of great scientific minds not some tawdry warm-o-fest of NGO activists.
The activities and political leanings of the BBC really are beyond parody or contempt.
And all financed by the licence payer.....
Blimey, it's only November, and Christmas is here! Kudos to Maurizio - this is indeed a triumph!
To quote some old stuff from November 2009
'A miracle has occurred'
Apologise ... Lord May does have an opinion about climate as shown here:
http://www.themonthly.com.au/climate-change-facts-uncertainties-and-way-forward-lord-may-2516
Let me repeat for the slowest journos that might be reading this.
The list has been obtained perfectly legally. It is available for all to see in the Wayback Machine. You don't need no secret code or password and no knowledge of source code of any type.
All you need is to find a broken link on a publicly-available page on the publicly-available IBT website and the ability to do "copy link address" with any ordinary mouse, then "paste" with the same mouse in the appropriate field in the Wayback Machine.
If persistence is a crime, I am in for a life sentence.
What could that lot have talked about all day? Was it just a 10 min pep talk and then slag off the British public over nibbles?
and there i was watching djokovic beat federer!
omg, thanx to tony newbery for really starting to get the ball rolling. time for an appeal.
thanx to maurizio, u r incredible.
thanx to bish, anthony, steve mac, joannenova, orlowski & everyone i've left out but who know who they are.
BP, the Insurance Industry...and all the other usual suspects.
btw Matthew Farrow is head of CBI Scotland, so there u go, Mike Haseler.
Matthew Farrow is Head of Policy at CBI Scotland. He joined the CBI in 1990, having studied History at Christ's College, Cambridge and has worked on issues including education and training, the growth of smaller firms, and tourism. His final post in London was Head of Smaller Firms and Tourism Policy. Early in 1999, Matthew was appointed to a new post at CBI Scotland, entitled Head of Policy. In this position Matthew is responsible for all the policy development carried out by CBI Scotland on behalf of its members.
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/News/Releases/2003/02/3083
BBC Meltdown.
Surely Delingpole will go to Town on this one!
Here's the entirely unbiased expert from the Open University, Dr Poshendra Satyal:
WTF is "a climate justice frame"? What branch of science is that?
I've just been looking at IBT's accounts for 2011. Their income for 2011 was £155,146 of which £154,146 was from grants, £89 in bank interest and £911 from donations and membership. They make no mention of whether the grants came from private institutions or government departments.
Has Helen Boaden committed perjury?
In net space, everyone can hear you scream. And again. And again. Forever.
Presumably the contrasting views of the scientists, mentioned by Hugs Boaden, were over what kind of biscuit to have with their tea. I doubt there were any contrasting views over how the BBC should cover "Climate Change".
From p2 of the International Broadcasting Trust document Maurizio found:
"The aim.
The aim of the seminars is to change minds and hearts. We want to talk about the
developing world in a way that is interesting, engaging and provocative, so that the BBC
participants and independent producers come away convinced that this is an area which
their programmes should no longer ignore. We are not pitching ideas and have no
guarantees that specific programmes will be commissioned on these issues. Our goal,
therefore, is to bring to life stories and issues from the developing world. We shall not be
talking in detail about tv coverage so we do not need participants to have a detailed
knowledge of British television."
How on earth does this tally with the event as described on p 40 of From Seesaw to Wagon Wheel: Safeguarding Impartiality in the 21st Century whichTony referenced:
"The BBC has held a high-level seminar with some of the best scientific experts, and has come to the view that the weight of evidence no longer justifies equal space being given to the opponents of the consensus."
Tony and Maurizio dig out what BBC star journo just took for granted:
http://ccgi.newbery1.plus.com/blog/?p=109&doing_wp_cron
Newsnight - goodnight!