Non-blogging

I'm off on my travels for the next week, so blogging will be non-existent.

Comments

[Dolphinhead]

Holiday Bish? I once had one of them.

[Don Pablo de la Sierra]

I guess we will have to amuse ourselves --- PLAY TIME!

[Pete H]

If you are in Cyprus I will show you the sea rising! Have fun Bish.

[Pete H]

By the way guys...Check out Shubs latest. I am still chocking with laughter at Greenbits! Nice one Shub!

http://nigguraths.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/greenpeace-data-availability/

[meltemian]

Thank you, thank you, thank you Pete H. (and Shub of course)
Haven't giggled like that for ages!

[meltemian]

Sorry Bish' - forgot to say have a good week.
I'm sure the posts will still keep coming, you know what they say about 'while the cat's away.....'

[Cumbrian Lad]

Bon voyages!

[Pharos]

I am starting to feel the more Huhne rants the better

http://timworstall.com/2011/07/23/very-stalinist-chris-very-stalinist/

[Robinson]

Wowza, on the issue of the BBC and its reporting, the Daily Mail (ok, ok, I know), is definitely not convinced...

Here

[Shub]

Thanks Robinson.

Expect Tim Lambert and Gavin Schmidt to blow their respective fuses. Keith Kloor a likely candidate as well. Expect them to focus on Einstein, quantum mechanics, Newtonian physics and the like.

[PFM]

Robinson Jul 24, 2011 at 2:19 AM |

Gosh, from the pic, Jones does rather look like one of the snails of which he is a Professor!

[Vigilantfish]

Have a nice vacation, Bishop.

Is anyone else having problems trying to link to WUWT today? I've tried repeatedly.

[Peter Walsh]

as this is mainly untreaded now why don't you all go to

www.stuff.co.nz

and see what global warming has done to Christchurch NZ and lots of other areas including the normally very warm Hawkes Bay an area I know very very well from my days in NZ.

But put on your winter wooly warmers before logging on.

[Peter Walsh]

I lived in this part of Wellington for 20 years Jan 1974 thru August 1994, never saw any snow there...quote from stuff.co.nz "with reports of snow being seen in Wellington's hill suburbs. "

Thank you gods of CAGW!!

[Pharos]

Vaclav Klaus audio interview on ABC Perth.
What a towering figure he cuts against our miserable feckless lot.

http://www.abc.net.au/local/audio/2011/07/22/3275639.htm

[KevYYZ]

I want my hypothetical money back.

[Pharos]

Vaclav Klaus again, interviewed in Sydney

http://www.2gb.com/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=9518

[simpleseekeraftertruth]

WUWT worth a look on;

Loehle and Scafetta calculate 0.66°C/century for AGW

[andyscrase]

Peter Walsh,

Here's my snaps of cross-country skiing on the beach in Christchurch NZ yesterday

[pat]

this quote from Cameron in The Big Issue has a Pythonesque feel to it, Bish... it's in the Tele and elsewhere, so it is accurate, but thought i'd include the link that also refers to Leveson:

25 July: Daily Mail: Jason Groves: Judge leading phone hacking inquiry is urged by MP to 'come clean' about links to Murdoch family
Writing in a special edition of the Big Issue magazine today, the Prime Minister says Britain ‘has had some real knocks and people’s confidence in our country has been shaken to the core’ by the scandals surrounding the banks, MPs’ expenses and phone hacking.
***He added: ‘There’s a sense that the rich and the powerful – politicians, bankers, the press and the police – have been serving themselves, not each other'***
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2018405/Rupert-Murdoch-scandal-Phone-hacking-inquiry-judge-urged-come-clean.html

[Peter Walsh]

Andy Scrase

Thanks for the shots, love the idea of beach cross country skiing!

I mentioned earlier I lived in the Northern Hills of Wellington, Cockayne Rd, Khandallah to be precise and there aren't many higher places in Wellington!

Rgds

Peter

[Gixxerboy]

Guys, while all is quiet at Bishop Hill check out this story at the New Zealand Herald:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10740806

A watermelon (calling himself Another MildGreen without a hint of irony) has completely blown his cover, asserting that the whole CO2 thing is less about science and more about bringing an end to - and I quote - 'white privilege'.

There in black and white. The consensus will not be happy with him.

[simpleseekeraftertruth]

Richard North has recently made an astute observation on a past thread;

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2011/7/12/beddingtons-baloney.html

Anyone have any other idea why the HadCRUT data would be truncated for an up-to-date report?

[golf charley]

Beddington. The Bish posted his piece about policy, which invited comments.

I posted after many others, queryng whether Beddington still had so much confidence in the inquiry system, in the wake of NotW etc.

3 more posts have now appeared, total 43, mine has not.

Censorship! Anyone else?

I do not know how to post links but the original thread is 3 pages back.

[stephen richards]

Shub said

Expect Tim Lambert and Gavin Schmidt to blow their respective fuses. Keith Kloor a likely candidate as well. Expect them to focus on Einstein, quantum mechanics, Newtonian physics and the like.

Shub, you know they won't come back with that :)) They have NO knowledge of these people or their science.

[Justice4Rinka]

FWIW I just went to LinkedIn and searched "People" for the term "climate".

I got 107,420 hits. That's 107,420 people with climate in their job title or profile; 107,420 turkeys who aren't about to vote for Christmas.

[golf charley]

Justice4Rinka

Average salary? Total cost?

ps ducks vote for christmas

[Chilli]

A typically balanced panel of three alarmists discuss climate change on BBC Radio 4's Home Planet.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b012qsdr

Mike Hume discusses water vapour temperature feedbacks at 6:00 minutes and says it's widely accepted they're large and positive. More climate change discussions at 17:35 minutes

[Gixxerboy]

Andy Scrase - loved the pics. Brrr. It got down to 1.5ºC last night in Auckland. Never known anything like that cold here.

Did you see Salinger's letter in the foldable Herald today? CO2 must be warming the planet because it does it in a jar (Arrhenius?); "97% of Climate Scientists agree..." and an assertion that Warmist scientists are more able and better qualified than those who disagree. What, like Steig?

And this man was NIWA's go-to guy for climate reports.

I've written a letter to the Ed but I suspect the Granny Herald is full of the usual suspects and won't publish anything rational against AGW.

Wrap up warm!

[pat]

who's in bed with big oil?

26 July: Xinhuanet: NASA, Chevron to jointly develop advanced technologies
"The partnership will help Chevron develop its energy resources to enable a better energy future for all of us."
"We are proud that the same pool of talent that sends rovers to Mars, explores our universe and studies Earth's environment will help contribute advanced technology towards our energy future here on Earth," Elachi said...
John McDonald, Chevron's corporate vice president and chief technology officer, said the partnership would provide "an opportunity to bridge public- and private-sector technology and research to discover oil and natural gas volumes that are found in deep remote reservoirs."...
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/sci/2011-07/26/c_131010555.htm

[Viv Evans]

Looks like this is an open thread now (i.e. 'when the cat's away, the mice .......), so here's something to cheer very quietly about, because it hasn't happened yet:

http://order-order.com/2011/07/26/libdems-prepare-for-huhne-charge/

Perhaps Guido knows something we don't ...

[PFM]

What's up with the BBC? The Torygraph TV Guide http://tvguideuk.telegraph.co.uk/ on The Great British Weather is trailed as"explain(ing) how the sun controls our climate" Shuereley not !

[Viv Evans]

Oh noes!!! See this:

http://order-order.com/2011/07/27/cps-handed-huhne-file-by-essex-police/

But wait, there's more:

"The Electoral Commission have found some irregulatrities between what Chris Huhne declared in his election expenses as “national spending” and what the national Liberal Democrats actually declared."

http://order-order.com/2011/07/27/exclusive-electoral-commission-order-libdem-expenses-review/

Is the end neigh (or should that be cluck-cluck?) for the Buffhuhn?

[Messenger]

"Meanwhile Mr Huhne has been cleared of wrongdoing over his election expenses."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14314745 today (Wednesday) at 16.18

[Shub]

Anybody suffering from Bishop Hill withdrawal syndrme yet?

[Viv Evans]

"Anybody suffering from Bishop Hill withdrawal syndrme yet?

Jul 27, 2011 at 5:43 PM | Shub"

Somewhat, Shub, somewhat ...

;-)

[PaulM]

Jonathan Jones has got his CRU data, following the ICO ruling against CRU a month ago. See his comment at CA.
Furthermore, there were no strings attached about passing it on so anyone can get it from his website. He also mentions an interview with Richard Black.

[toad]

'Tree rings 'not a good guide to warming'.
Yes we know WUWT said that, but why has Louise Gray one of the two resident 'warmists' at the Telegraph published this. Mind you she does close by denying what she's just said. I've typed it out laboriously on the JD blog as nowhere is it recorded against 'Louise Gray' or 'Environment' at the DT website.
The other mystery is where's Geoffrey Lean ? Having told the world on his last but one blog, that he thought Greenpeace might rename a ship 'SAMANTHA CAMERON after their 'former' supporter, he's gone missing. Holiday, or has Dave blown his top at this indiscretion.?

[hro001]

Jul 27, 2011 at 5:43 PM | Shub

Anybody suffering from Bishop Hill withdrawal syndrme yet?

Yes, definitely! But I do hope our host is having a good time on this much deserved break!

Those who are seeking some relief from the symptoms of BH withdrawal, might want to take their mouse for a scroll through one or more the following:

Donna has a great post today in which she knocks Pachauri's latest crutch out from under him.

Pielke Jr. and a number of co-authors have written a follow-up to their Hartwell Paper that is worth a read, IMHO: Climate Pragmatism

And Dr. Judith Curry had a fascinating post yesterday on America's first global warming debate, complemented by some equally fascinating history from TonyB in the comments.

Readers may or may not agree with the efficacy of my suggested remedies, but that's the ... <shameless plug alert> ... View from here ;-)

[pat]

still waiting for MSM to show interest in UEA employing OO and Neil Wallis post-Climategate but, in the meantime, for the FOI-ers amongst you:

27 July: BBC: The Wallis files: What the police can and can't find
The Metropolitan Police can't find the document setting out the details of the public relations consultancy services it controversially bought from Neil Wallis, former deputy editor of the News of the World.
But it hasn't lost all the files associated with the contract...
The BBC has also obtained from the Met copies of invoices submitted by Mr Wallis for his public relations advice and a copy of his contract. However this is only the standard part of the contract.
The force has told us that it cannot find the schedules to the contract which set out the services to be provided and the payments to be made...
These documents were provided to the BBC not through the Freedom of Information Act, but under a more obscure and rarely used legal right to information which only applies for a short time each year.
This is laid down in the Audit Commission Act, which gives local electors a temporary right of access to the detailed financial records of English councils and police and fire authorities (including contracts, bills, vouchers and receipts). Similar legislation applies in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
It applies for a period of a few weeks annually, to facilitate the public raising concerns with auditors. The timing is linked to the auditing schedule for each council or authority. It generally falls between May and August, and we are currently in the middle of the relevant period for the Metropolitan Police.
From the point of view of those seeking information this law has several advantages over the Freedom of Information Act. One is speed. In this case we obtained the records within a few days. An FOI application is likely to take 20 working days or sometimes considerably longer to obtain an answer...
Another is that the grounds for exempting material from disclosure are narrower than under freedom of information law.
Personal data about staff can still be restricted, but it is harder for authorities to keep other material secret on the basis that it is confidential or threatens commercial interests than it would be in response to an FOI request.
The rights of access under the audit legislation can only be exercised within the narrow window of opportunity and by those with a local interest.
The best source for background material about this law is the website of the Orchard News Bureau, a news agency run by Richard Orange, who is the leading journalistic authority on this subject...
The coalition government is now trying to encourage citizens to use this right, as part of its campaign to unleash a force of "armchair auditors".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14208896

[hro001]

Jul 28, 2011 at 2:22 AM | pat

The force has told us that it cannot find the schedules to the contract which set out the services to be provided and the payments to be made...

Looks like the police might have taken a page out of the Official CRU Book of Excuses! Who knows, maybe Wallis suggested this "strategy" to the Met ;-)

[lapogus]

BH withdrawal symptoms? No comment.

Mike Haseler has just flagged a report on Dr Roy Spencer's latest work which blows rather a big whole in the CO2 thesis and the IPCC's models.

http://scottishsceptic.wordpress.com/2011/07/27/the-death-knell-for-global-warming-alarmism/#more-785

http://blogs.forbes.com/jamestaylor/2011/07/27/new-nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-in-global-warming-alarmism/

[HaroldW]

Luboš Motl has picked up on an AP story about Charles Monnett apparently being investigated for scientific misconduct. Charles Monnett was one of the authors of an article speculating that polar bears are in danger from climate change, specifically at increased risk of drowning due to the reduction of Arctic ice.

[pat]

not sure what this means:

CO2 Science: State-of-the-Art Climate Models and Extreme Meteorological Events and Consequences
Volume 14, Number 30: 27 July 2011
In a recent paper published in Climate Research, Trenberth (2011) compares the projections of state-of-the-art climate models with what is known about the real world with respect to extreme meteorological events related to atmospheric moisture, such as precipitation and various types of storm systems, as well as subsequent extreme consequences such as droughts, floods and wind damage. So what does he find?....
In light of these several observations, Trenberth concludes that "major challenges remain to improve model simulations of the hydrological cycle." And until such is accomplished and it is proven that the models can at least correctly simulate something as basic as precipitation, it would seem unwise in the extreme to make major global-economy-impacting political decisions on so flimsy a basis as what today's climate models are currently predicting, not only with respect to the meteorological phenomena that are discussed by Trenberth, but with respect to the many other extreme weather and climatic events that the world's climate alarmists use to terrorize the public on a never-ending basis via their over-the-top rhetoric about impending catastrophic consequences if anthropogenic CO2 emissions are not drastically reduced
http://www.co2science.org/articles/V14/N30/EDIT.php

but i certainly know what this means (1500 pages approx with all the extras) and not a mention of "global warming", AGW or CAGW:

340 pages: Australia: The Carbon Tax legislation has been released finally: The draft from the Climate Change Department
http://www.climatechange.gov.au/government/submissions/clean-energy-legislative-package/~/media/publications/clean-energy-legislation/exposure-draft-clean-energy-bill-2011-pdf.pdf

[LevelGaze]

Don't know how many here visit http://climaterealists.com/index.php

Fascinating recent stuff about Postma and Nahle apparently destroying the whole concept of CO2 induced warming - which on the surface at least flagrantly violates the laws of thermodynamics. Hmmm..

I'm surprised this hasn't been reported on the other usual blogs (WUWT, JoNova etc.)

[lapogus]

Beddington has just responded but as far as I can see he has failed to address any of the points made by commenters on his report. e.g.

Several comments have argued that recent temperature trends do not show global warming. It is a fallacy to consider short term trends as an indicator of the underlying changes in the climate. On short timescales natural climatic variability is the dominating influence. The long term trend is clearly one of warming. Global average temperatures are around 0.75°C warmer than they were 100 years ago and a comparison of average temperatures shows each of the last three decades has been warmer than the last and each has set a new and statistically significant record, with the 2000s the warmest decade since records began.

Which suggests to me that he has not read Douglas Keenan's recent piece in the Wall Street Journal - http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2011/4/4/keenan-on-climate-statistics.html . He side-steps all the other comments suggesting the recent warming has nothing to do with CO2. The only safe conclusion is that Government Ministers are being very poorly advised - and unfortunately they have evidently not read the very good advice from former William Waldegrave, Mrs Thatcher's Science minister - http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2011/6/3/advice-to-a-science-minister.html

Beddington's full text at: http://blogs.bis.gov.uk/blog/2011/07/28/responding-to-comments-from-preparing-for-the-future/

[pat]

looks like a long wait before this inquiry gets down to the nitty gritty:

28 July: BBC: Phone-hacking: Judge will use powers to demand evidence
His (Lord Leveson) inquiry will examine press ethics and practices in relation to the public, politicians and police.
Public hearings will begin in September and he will report back within a year.
"It may be tempting for a number of people to close ranks and suggest the problem is or was local to a small group of journalists then operating at the News of the World," said Lord Justice Leveson...
Lord Justice Leveson said he would not have accepted the role had he "the slightest doubt" about his position....
The inquiry will stage a preliminary hearing in September, ahead of a series of seminars in October on topics such as the law, media regulation, ethics of journalism and the practice and pressures of investigative reporting.
"At some stage, there needs to be a discussion of what amounts to the public good, to what extent the public interest should be taken into account and by whom," said Lord Justice Leveson...
Similar seminars would be held later in relation to press relationships with police and politicians, and on the plurality of the media and cross-media ownership, he said.
A second section of the inquiry, looking into specific phone-hacking allegations, will begin only once police investigations have been completed.
However, Martin Moore, from research group the Media Standards Trust, said detail was needed about how opinions of the public and hacking victims would be heard...
Keith Vaz, who as Home Affairs committee chairman criticised the Met for failing to prioritise the interests of hacking victims, said the public inquiry would take much longer than the 12 months initially envisaged.
Lord Justice Leveson would want to "write the script" for press regulation and future relations between the media and public figures, said Mr Vaz.
The MP also called for a meeting between the judge and committee chairmen involved in the various Parliamentary inquiries into the affair to ensure they did not "tread on his toes".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14325466

[Mac]

I do think that the two most important papers on AGW have been published.

http://rossmckitrick.weebly.com/uploads/4/8/0/8/4808045/mmh_asl2010.pdf

http://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/3/8/1603/

The conclusion is stark for alarmists and warmists - CO2 is not trapping heat as assumed and modelled because projections are not supported by observations.

This planet cannot be modelled as if it were simply a jam jar full of CO2 heated by a desk lamp.

The scientific arguements fall, the environmental arguements fall, the political and policy arguements fall.

[HaroldW]

One can read the abstract for the first of Mac's citations (Spencer and Bracewell) at Dr Pielke Sr's blog. In brief, models underestimate earth's heat radiation to space, thereby overestimating increase in temperature. Which corresponds to the discrepancies, as noted by e.g. Lucia, between model trends and observations.

[BBD]

LevelGaze

Fascinating recent stuff about Postma and Nahle apparently destroying the whole concept of CO2 induced warming - which on the surface at least flagrantly violates the laws of thermodynamics. Hmmm..

Not this, again...

See here and here for clarity.