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Friday
Jul152011

Hockey Sticks in the wild

Donna Laframboise is looking for sightings of the Hockey Stick in the wild. There is a category on Climate Audit for this kind of thing which has some early examples, but if anyone has any other suggestions, do drop Donna a line.

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It does not seem to have appeared recently at RealClimate.

Perhaps Donna might also like to examine the places where it seems to have become extinct, due to a change in the "climate"

Jul 15, 2011 at 11:00 AM | Unregistered Commentergolf charley

http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2011/07/14/well-theres-your-problem-fed-spending-299-home-income-27/

Well it looks like one to me, either way you want to look at it.

Jul 15, 2011 at 11:45 AM | Unregistered CommenterPascvaks

Still being used by the Beeb in July 2008:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7517444.stm

Jul 15, 2011 at 12:37 PM | Unregistered CommenterSimonW

The CA category (mostly early posts) is http://climateaudit.org/category/mbh98/spot-the-hockey-stick/ . I emailed this to Donna.

Jul 15, 2011 at 1:19 PM | Unregistered CommenterSteve McIntyre

I had a quick surf looking for hockey sticks and was disturbed how many of them are aimed at kids.

Here’s a particularly inexcusable one from a geography course set by the Royal Geographical Society.

http://www.geographyteachingtoday.org.uk/images/activities/temperatures.html

No error bars, no explanation of the spliced data. It comes from this site.

http://www.geographyteachingtoday.org.uk/ks3-resources/online-cpd/climate-change/

More

http://www.ltscotland.org.uk/exploringclimatechange/thebasics/index.asp

http://hdgc.epp.cmu.edu/teachersguide/teachersguide.htm

http://www.windows2universe.org/earth/climate/medieval_warm_period.html

http://see-the-sea.org/topics/pollution/air/man-made/man_made_global_warming.htm

http://www.insights.co.nz/change.aspx#

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GlobalWarming/page3.php

http://www.truthmove.org/content/global-warming/

Jul 15, 2011 at 6:27 PM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

I suppose it gives rise to:-

How do you convince a child to believe in AGW? Apply a hockey stick where it will do most good.

Jul 15, 2011 at 6:34 PM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

Headmaster with hockey stick - "Bend over Smedley. This is for your own good. Global warming is going to hurt you much more than it's going to hurt me."

Jul 15, 2011 at 6:51 PM | Unregistered CommenterTinyCO2

TinyCO2, I had a look at the NZ site and was so annoyed by the unscourced nonsense there I left a very grumpy comment. I was doubly annoyed by the fact that some group has done a terrific job of building a very attractive site with lots of excellent educational stuff, then they ruin it with rubbish that is pure alarmism and nothing to do with reality.

Jul 15, 2011 at 8:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterAlexander K

Thanks for the input TinyCO2. Struck a raw nerve or two with me.
Reminded me of those Larkin Lines
"They fu** you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do"
I'm sure that Auntie Bee, Uncle August Authority and Cousins Consensus are as well meaning as mater and pater were but now that they have 'robust science' behind them isn't it the case that that they've become more patronising than hitherto?
I still love my relatives and value their advice but why can't I shift my suspicion that they may have been gulled?

Jul 16, 2011 at 1:26 AM | Unregistered CommenterRoyFOMR

Thanks so much for the suggestions, everyone. The Spot-the-Hockey-Stick section at ClimateAudit is a great stroll down memory lane of which I'd been previously unaware.

I'm especially interested in knowing whether that graph showed up in textbooks aimed at elementary or high school students - or was the cycle too short between when it was everywhere and when it became suspect?

Cheers!

Jul 16, 2011 at 3:18 AM | Unregistered CommenterDonna Laframboise

Well if we're not limited to temperature hockey sticks, the latest Kemp, Mann et al paper on sea level over the las 2000 years does a good one.

Jul 16, 2011 at 9:38 AM | Unregistered Commentertallbloke

The article from July 16th titled 'De Frietas Profile' is worth a look. The news item it references suggests that the hockey stick is being used in NZ universities (though not be De Freita).

Jul 16, 2011 at 1:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterEddy

This is well and truly embarrassing. The e-mail address I provided at the bottom of my blog post asking for help contained an error. If you went to the trouble of sending me a note on this matter and haven't yet received a response, perhaps you'd be kind enough to resend it to the correct e-mail address: NOconsensus.org AT gmail.com.

Abject apologies.

Jul 16, 2011 at 2:53 PM | Unregistered CommenterDonna Laframboise

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