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Josh 72 redux

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It's not the evidence, it's what you do with the evidence that counts.

Feb 3, 2011 at 9:45 PM | Unregistered CommenterBT

Very funny! So apt.

Feb 3, 2011 at 9:50 PM | Unregistered CommenterJosh

BT that is, I could not possibly comment on my own cartoon.

The redux is H/t to Atomic Hairdryer and Anthony, v helpful suggestions.

Feb 3, 2011 at 9:51 PM | Unregistered CommenterJosh

You can't accuse him of hiding the decline.

Feb 3, 2011 at 9:55 PM | Unregistered CommenterMartin A


You use the word "redux"

Surely in relation to the main character's member you mean reduce(d)?

The evidence is there to see, (or not to see) that the question?

It all depends on the angle of dangle and the angle of view!

Peter Walsh

Feb 3, 2011 at 9:59 PM | Unregistered CommenterRETEPHSLAW

It's a travesty.

Feb 3, 2011 at 10:09 PM | Unregistered CommenterBBD

Great drawing, Josh and very funny !

Feb 3, 2011 at 10:10 PM | Unregistered CommenterE Smith

Could you do one about the Santer's dead rat and the yellow Hummer?

If we are to believe the latest interview given by Ben Santer, he has been talking about the same dead rat for about six months now.

Feb 3, 2011 at 10:50 PM | Unregistered CommenterShub Niggurath

The Bishop brings a lucid, enquiring mind, and an oasis of relative calm and civility for sharing points of view in the jangling jarring hubbub of climate politicking and posturing.

Josh brings joy, and gentle barbs against those who disturb our peace with their troubled minds and troublesome practices.

Here's to them, Josh and the Bishop!!

Feb 3, 2011 at 11:00 PM | Unregistered CommenterJohn Shade

Josh, your cartoons are fantastic.

Shub, what's the caption for the Santer-hummer-rat amalgam? Here's my entry:

"Excuse me, kind sir. You appear to have deposited a deceased rodent upon my threshold."

Feb 3, 2011 at 11:09 PM | Unregistered CommenterBT

At least it is not a cover up.

Feb 3, 2011 at 11:44 PM | Unregistered CommenterDon Pablo de la Sierra

Martin A,

"You can't accuse him of hiding the decline."

LOL! Just started so have not seen other comments, but that would be a good punch line.

Feb 4, 2011 at 3:00 AM | Unregistered CommenterPhil R

I'm sure someone can work a 'hide the decline" in here somewhere.

Feb 4, 2011 at 9:16 AM | Unregistered CommenterJimmy Haigh

Shub it's more like a year! WM Briggs, statistician to the stars, posted an open letter to Santer back in May offering him some advice, so the story had clearly been running for a while then.
As usual, the Team refused to take the advice of professional statisticians.

Feb 4, 2011 at 9:25 AM | Unregistered CommenterDavid S

Oh no! Trenberth is the new climate model.

Feb 4, 2011 at 11:08 AM | Unregistered CommenterTufty

So it's true, the Hockey Stick was illusory.


Feb 4, 2011 at 11:24 AM | Unregistered Commenterdread0

Psst! Hey! He needs a new clothes rail?

Feb 4, 2011 at 11:44 AM | Unregistered CommenterMartyn

The rat thing is actually worse. If you read carefully, the rat and the yellow Hummer happened "many years ago" - in all probability, way, way before Climategate.

Santer introduced the story in his Congressional testimony in front of the Senate in May last year, in the context of the supposed attacks scientists were under in the aftermath of Climategate, the public outcry, and the emails pouring into climate scientists' inboxes due to Marc Morano's postings email addresses.

The rat thing happened well before all this. Think about it - is Santer even a central figure in the 'IPCC report, hide the decline, delete the emails' fiasco in Climategate? He is not. In fact, it is his private emails - with all their violent fantasies of dark alleys and beating the crap out of Pat Michaels - that are among the unambiguously embarrassing. Why would they evoke any passionate responses - the man's screwed over himself and climate scientists.

The media outlets did the next thing. Not all of them mention that the rat business has nothing to do with Climategate or the supposed post-Climategate outburst of irrational anger. That part is slyly elided. As far as I can tell, Matt Briggs and even Marc Morano have fallen for this.

Today when Andrew Freedman of the Washington Post approaches climate scientists for a story on "Cooling off the heated climate rhetoric", Santer has given him with the same rat story.

We don't know the full details Santer must have provided, but the article is crystal-clear in its flow of conclusions. Post-Climategate, scientists have been receiving insulting emails and death threats, public discourse is worried about violence since Gabrielle Giffords was shot in Arizona, WUWT comments are often violent, many scientists get emails from WUWT and Morano's website, Santer got a rat several years ago, Santer says - "if something happens, I'll hold Marc Morano responsible".

If you are bullied as a kid in school, do you appear at court or in front of the media at every 'assault and robbery' interview, and nod, "Yes, I was beaten up too, by people". That is precisely what Santer is doing. But people now are angry, if they are, because of new reasons, reasons that demonstrably and palpably incriminating against Santer and scientists like him - because of Climategate emails that Santer wrote of his own will, and his data sharing shenanigans with McIntyre.

How the heck is he saying he'll hold Marc Morano responsible for that?

That a scientist from a prestigious organization like the Lawrence Livermore National Lab would be involved in stories like this, is jawdropping.

Feb 4, 2011 at 12:36 PM | Unregistered CommenterShub


Very interesting background on Santer and the rat etc. Thanks for that.

Feb 4, 2011 at 12:44 PM | Unregistered CommenterBBD

I found a dead rat on my doorstep. Shock-horror. After checking the security camera footage, I discovered that it was my cat!

Next time I see my cat, I'll be tempted to beat the crap out of him. Very tempted.


Feb 4, 2011 at 1:11 PM | Unregistered CommenterSimon Hopkinson

Thanks Shub. It really is most unedifying. Being a bully is an unpleasant character defect, and so is being a cry-baby. To be both at once is beneath contempt.

Feb 4, 2011 at 3:03 PM | Unregistered CommenterDavid S

Great image Josh.

This below has been used in presentations - it could be Gore carrying AIT or Pachauri the IPCC SPM.
Lindzen's prediction from 2005 may be happening now.

Feb 4, 2011 at 3:13 PM | Unregistered CommenterJoe D'Aleo

It is a lot more real than the IPCC version.

Feb 7, 2011 at 9:34 AM | Unregistered CommenterFritz

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