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Bishop Hill
Bishop Hill Pew Centre is big oil funded
Nov 12, 2011 Climate: other The India Times reports that the Pew Center on Global Climate Change, one of the most active green think tanks, has had its purse strings cut by its parent body the Pew Charitable Trusts. In the absence of anything better, the Centre has decided to take up funding from a number of big businesses, including Shell, and has rebranded itself the Center for Climate and Energy Solutions.
Presumably we are going to hear little more about the Center, now that it is big-oil funded? Or will its output be written off as untrustworthy?
Reader Comments (25)
alarmists justify funding from BIG OIL on RB's blog
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15639767?postId=110846284#comment_110846284
"rubbish strawman argument. BIG OIL should be taxed heavily to fix the problems it has created.
btw the pew institute (which you referenced) are looking at policy instruments to avoid the worst of the climate change. they are not doing climatology"
Climatology, obviously hasn't spotted the sly reference to scientology there ;)
Bish, I sure hope your "big oil" funding has not been diverted to rescue Pew!
FWIW, notwithstanding all BobWardian claims to the contrary, my "big oil" funding cheques have never arrived.
Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen any evidence of any "big oil" funding except that which shows up on the books of the GreenGrossers... such as Canada's guru of all things green, David Suzuki [see http://green.wikia.com/wiki/David_Suzuki_Foundation]
Oh right - of course, just like the BEST results were dismissed out of hand and rubbished because it was funded by the Koch brothers. Oh - hold on, the only people doing that were you lot. You loved it right up until the results came out, at which point, you declared it rubbish because it didn't give you the answers you wanted. Just like all the climategate inquiries were nonense becase they didn't deliver the answers you wanted.......
Inconsistent much?
Well given the CRU and IPCC have been happy to take money from oil companies for years , I think we know the answer to that. But you have to remember that its 'different' when AGW supporters do the same things they attack others for doing like flying .
Its part of the magic of AGW that 'dirty oil money ' becomes cleansed when its use for the 'faith '
DNFT
"DNFT"
Nov 12, 2011 at 10:28 AM | Roger Carr
AKA - Zed's right again, and I don't come to this messageboard to be corrected, I come to share nonsense with others, and we all want to kid each other that we're right.
Roger Carr DNFT
"...you lot..." Ha ha
The antics of energy companies are often entertaining
http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/edf-fined-for-greenpeace-computer-hack-45629
It’s the same story everywhere. In return for much needed funding, the Italian government has been reformed, and will now be known as the Franco-German Institute for Anal-retentive Economics.
as factual as ever - how about this headline from the well-known sceptic Joe Romm:
Hot Dog Bites Skeptical Man: Koch-Funded Berkeley Temperature Study Does “Confirm the Reality of Global Warming”
By Joe Romm on Oct 20, 2011 at 6:27 pm
You're a bit late on this story. Am surprised you didn't pick up on it from American media earlier in the week:
http://twitter.com/#!/keithkloor/status/134651839881822208
No I'd seen it earlier in the week, but I didn't get round to posting about it.
Hro001 - FWIW, notwithstanding all BobWardian claims to the contrary, my "big oil" funding cheques have never arrived.
Meanwhile, Ward's cheques from Exxon do arrive, via dividends from Grantham's 11.3 million shares in the company. http://www.climate-resistance.org/2011/10/warding-off-the-deniers.html
It's a big ploy by Grantham. The more he and other climate alarmists invest in big-oil, the less money is available for big-oil to give to climate realists.
Guess I'm missing something. Can someone please tell me, has BEST/MULLER got through any kind of PEER review yet?
Realclim8gateBarry Woods
No complaints from Bob Ward (Grantham) of the Exxon funding of the Science & Media Centre? Is it bcos he's on the board
http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/pages/about/smc_board.htm
and Simon Singh
As are BP and Shell, and Met Office and DECC ;-)
http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/pages/about/funding.htm
Some are trying to make out Pew, is not a properly PRO AGW consensus thinktank, etc..
Yet these guys were at the 'oceans' are all doomed little conference, that Richard Black 'reported'
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/06/21/saving-the-world-and-the-ocean-one-activist-opinion-at-a-time-another-greenpeace-flap-this-one-duped-global-media/
"A coordination team works together with a Steering Group that currently consists of the Ecology Action Centre, Greenpeace International, Marine Conservation Biology Institute, Natural Resources Defense Council, Pew Environment Group and Seas at Risk. The DSCC has developed a formidable international team of scientists, policy and communication experts, lawyers and political activists who on behalf of the deep sea have established a strong reputation and profile on the issue at the UN and in other fora."
Zed, don't make us get a real climate scientist to pwn you again.
Pews in the church of climatology.
It's ironic that the Pew Charitable Trust itself would have been impossible without oil money. Here's a little history from it's website at http://www.pewtrusts.org/about_us.aspx :
Major oil companies are multinational corporations (Def from Wiki- 'The Dutch East India Company was the second multinational corporation in the world (the first, the British East India Company, was founded two years earlier) and the first company to issue stock, and it was the largest of the early multinational companies.[2] It was also arguably the world's first megacorporation, possessing quasi-governmental powers, including the ability to wage war, negotiate treaties, coin money, and establish colonies.[3]
Some multi national corporations are very big, with budgets that exceed some nations' GDPs. Multinational corporations can have a powerful influence in local economies, and even the world economy, and play an important role in international relations and globalization.'
In other words, they are much more than conventional oil and gas producers. They have fingers in many pies. Some closely related to that production, some less so. Petrochemicals, synthetic rubber tyres, fertilizers, lubricants yes, but mining, convenience stores, real estate etc? They have divisions and budgets for everything, players marking every base. They will be there, their land and legal men lobbying and negotiating, their acquisions teams looking for deals and takeovers, etc., etc, and a large philanthropic academic training and research budget (oil industy benefaction has been historically huge, especially in the US), and even a social budget for local 'causes'.
It is no surprise at all that they will want to be in there when they smell money and influence, whether they hold their noses or not.
zeds"Oh - hold on, the only people doing that were you lot."
People pointed out some problems with the data and the WAY the data was released.
Get over it.
Zeds"Just like all the climategate inquiries were nonsense becase they didn't deliver the answers you wanted......."
Zeds,,,either you have been living under a rock and dont know anything..which is consistent with a lot of what you right..or..you are being dishonest.
Take your pick.
Here is the climate gate information for you..if you thought that the "enquiries" were legit and actually done with due dilligence..then now you will be in for a shock.
Thats sarcasm of course. :)
Please read below and come back and apologise..
http://assassinationscience.com/climategate/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/08/27/ati-press-release-on-the-mann-uva-emails/#more-45982
http://www.thegwpf.org/images/stories/gwpf-reports/Climategate-Inquiries.pdf
http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/10/ipcc-and-the-trick/
http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/03/the-mann-report/
zeds"Zed's right again, and I don't come to this messageboard to be corrected, I come to share nonsense with others, and we all want to kid each other that we're right."
Brilliant stuff zeds..you make up garbage,dont read anything..and then pat yourself on the back.
Grow up please, and start researching some of the things you blather on about.
Its getting tireseome correcting you or..watchng others ask you ask you simple questions whilst you just hide..
It doesnt make you look honest or bright when you do that.
Are you of school age.?
Mike -- why do you bother with her?
Mike
There's just no point, it wont read any of your links and will be back with the same old tripe tomorrow.
DNFTT
The world class mental gymanstics of the AGW promoters is like the definition of 'conflict of interest' for American ambulance chaser attorneys:
Anything that does not support the ambulance chaser's want for more casah is a conflict of interest.